Well, how would the large pillars not be standing? Even the creator and architect of the building said that the pillars would be standing. The creator and architect... He also said that it was made to be able to withstand many hits from those same planes, but only one plane hit each building.... Oh and about the Pentagon: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Pentagon_crach_site.jpg Tell me if you find anything that resembles an airplane...
Last time I check I've never seen a passenger jet that isn't completely full, before, or after 9/11. So I wonder why the four that were 'hijacked' were all less then half full? hell, one only had 26 passengers aboard. It's also pretty odd that all the passengers combined equaled roughly the capacity of the Boeing 757-223. makes you wonder... Reference
Try presenting sources for these "facts" against zeitgeist please...as I am sure that there are other sources saying those facts are wrong...try not to be mislead by the internet brute... lol, that's like a where's waldo book with no waldo...poor kids still looking =[
I'd like to step in and discuss the issue regarding the towers being able to withstand multiple hits from a plane. The buildings were designed to withstand the impact of multiple planes. The key word is impact. The planes that struck the twin towers were filled to the brim with fuel. Jet fuel burns at about 1000 degrees Celsius, and that can weaken metal support beams considerably. This is why the towers didn't fall immediately. After the collision the fire continued inside the structures until the temperature rose to the point where the metal supports failed. That being said, do I think the government was behind the 9/11 attacks? No. Do I think the government used the situation to manipulate the American people? YES. For those interested in this kind of conspiracy theory, I'd recommend reading the book 1984. Good stuff there.
That would be a good point, if not for that fact that Jet A kerosene doesn't burn nearly hot enough to weaken steel girders. Infact Jet A kerosene is the same stuff burned in conventional steel wall heaters. Now, Thermite on the other hand is hot enough to liquefy steal. Reference. <3
Well I really hope that none of you actually believe that 9/11 was a conspiracy or somehting organized by the governement. And to Tex, don't you be mislead by the interent, the Zeitgeist is just naother heap of internet propaganda and lies, the purpose of it is to sound convincing and draw you in to belive all the crap they feed.
You're right, very good point, though, the same could be turned around against you, like so: The facts that you received, saying that Zeitgeist is just another heap of internet propaganda and lies, is from another heap of internet propaganda and lies. See how easy that works? The funny thing is: NEITHER OF US KNOW THE TRUTH sadfaic
If 9/11 was so "fake" why did the news report video show many people jumping off the building? Yeah there might have been a bomb or something to make it collapse but...
WHAT THE **** DID YOU JUST SAY?!!!???! The fact of 9/11 being fake, is not saying it was "staged" as in a movie. It's saying that the government set up the process, through thorough maniacal plots against America, and its people... omg, i can't believe what I just read.
Jet A fuel can actually burn hot enough given the right conditions. With the right mix of oxygen and pressure, it can reach a maximum tempurature of about 1000 degrees Celsius. The steal girders used in the building would melt at around 600 degrees Celsius. While the jet engine wouldn't be burning the fuel that hot, it would certainly be hot enough to weaken the steal of the building. The fuel itself burns in open air at about 250 degrees Celsius, that coupled with the enormous pressure from the building holding itself upright caused it to collapse. Food for thought You could also hypothesize that there were some flaws with the steal at the microscopic level that combined with intense heat, caused the building to fail. That's just speculation. You can never rule out poor engineering. The Titanic was suppose to be unsinkable, but we all know how that story ends....
might wanna change the thread title to 9/11 - Setup or Terrorism Great idea. whether the U.S. government killed all those people or not, death is still real. Title changed.
chek this video out if you havent seen it its pretty interesting about this topic... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E3oIbO0AWE
hey conspiracy theorists. Instead of presenting one by one the muontains of facts that prove you wrong. How about a video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stVmEmJ666M
Conspiracy theorists are some of the most stupid gullible people on the face of this earth. For every 9/11 theory video there is a rebuttal video that covers everything said in the video. I have yet to have seen these conspiracy theorists address the points made in a rebuttal. Again here watch the "Mystery of the Urinal Duece" episode of south park and then watch it again with commentary.
Damn how did bush get away with it after watching that film i have no doute that it was thermite but what about 7/7 how did that bush again?
9/11 inside job ? - GameBattles Forums I think you should check out that thread and look at these pics. It made me think about it more.
I think that just about sums it up. If not... This was written to 'Ref' of the JREF forums by Daniel Nigro, the former chief of the New York City Fire Department, who operated at the time of 9/11. ____________________________ Here's an example of how dogmatic these conspiracy theories can make you.
I don't believe threories from people that weren't even there. I take first hand accounts from people there that say "this was a terrorist attack" and the fact that it wasn't the first time the trade center was attacked by terrorist. Theres no cover up involved it was an attack and sad enough as it is it was a successful one that was planned out by a group of hijackers that took control of planes with weapons and then used them as weapons. I don't believe our government would kill its own people and on such a large scale.