The difference is that while bloodlust is natural and can be resisted, it's a part of the human brain which has a lot more freedom. It's as simple as controlling movement: You don't pull the trigger/move your knife, the person isn't killed. Homosexuality is emotions and feelings. It's not a man being born thinking he's a woman. It's a man whose brain says "I'm attracted to men." It's only seen as a part of a woman's brain because there's no other place to reference the "attraction to men" part of the brain. So technically, if someone opened up a gay man's brain before a straight womans, they could say "This part of the straight woman's brain is like a gay man's." You ask a gay man what his gender is and he won't say "Female" he'd say "A man, duh." You can choose not to kill. (Not to mention that comparison is so offensive it's what we call a "faux pas" You can't choose to change your sexuality. In fact, I dare you. Straight, human, male to straight, human, male. For one week, I dare you to try and make yourself attracted towards men. Can you do it? I doubt it. One thing that interests me is that that BBC article made no reference to bisexuals. What about their brains? Overview: For gay marriage: Why the hell not? Against gay marriage: There's no real reason not to. For pro-gay-marriage (let's abbreviate it PGM) the main argument is that there is no reason not to. In the United States of America, the burden of proof is on the "Prosecutors." So in this case, what has the group of AGM (Anti-Gay marriage) say? Nothing but demeaning, ignorant, and stupid reasons. To all ignorant straight people: Remember, Straight people have gay children. So you might want to think about that before talking about choices and being raised. If you want to hear something really weird, let me say that I have a theory that homosexuality is nature's way of dealing with overpopulation. Let's not get into that. (By the way, I'm not trying to make homosexuality look animalistic, the same way that sex was meant for reproduction is not animalistic.) Remember posters, if you act nicely and don't get angry, your point comes across more clearly in your posts. tl;dr version: GTFO, this is the debate section. Gay marriage good. Ignorance bad. The HIV virus can be spread by a bad blood transfusion and unprotected vaginal sex. Although HIV/AIDS is more commonly transmitted by male-to-male sexual contact, it's still not an only-male thing. (Source) Never thought of that, although it makes perfect sense. Let's think back to the Constitution. We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness " Gay marriage interferes with none of those. Anti-Gay marriage does. Since you all seem so keen on arguing whether or not homosexuality is okay, I'll make a thread for that. This is for gay marriage only, not homosexuality in general.
We've been down this road, that is a crappy argument, just becuase something is (supposedly) natural, and non-harmful it is not necesarily right, example: If they want to commit suicide why not let them? it doesn't hurt you. I mean maybe they were born depressed, then they can't do anything about it. No you shouldn't make them get psychological help! That would be trying to change who they are. Why not just be tolerant, loving, and understanding ant let them kill themselves. See what I did there? I applied the gay argument to people who want to commit suicide...Tricky little bugger aren't I? Same argument different pretense, no one would say suicide is right and yet by your logic it is.
Hmmmmm let people kill themselves? sounds good to me besides gay marriage does not hurt ANYBODY (including yourself) so this argument is false. Besides suicide has no life helping/saving benefits marriage does!!!
Children aren't born wanting to kill themselves, it's the environment around them that persuades them and changes them to think that they would rather be dead than deal with what they have now; you're arguing something different entirely. You're arguing that both homosexuality and bisexuality are wrong, please keep on topic.
You really think you're "tricky" don't you? You really think that sig is badass don't you? You're far from both. Suicide is not right, but I however am for decreasing the population, which suicide is one way to do do it, so I guess I "support suicide". Also, homosexuality provides parents who adopt those children who are left in foster homes, so I see no point in keeping homosexuals from doing what they feel is right in their heart.
Hardly. It just makes your argument as ignorant as equating gay people with murderers. The last time I checked, gay people are just that; people. People who have the same hopes and fears as you, and all they want out of life is to be able to have something that everyone else has a chance to have. There is no intelligent reason not to give them that opportunity. Marriage is a spiritual bond, and spirituality and religion do not always go hand in hand. Sorry to burst that bubble, people. I'm a married man and I'm hardly religious. We're also not planning to have children, so does that mean I shouldn't be allowed to be married to the woman I love more than anything in the world? Of course not. When you deny the rights to a group of people, no matter who they are or what your opinion of their lifestyle is, it's oppression. Every human being in this world should be allowed to enjoy the same freedoms and liberties. We need to focus on making this world a better place, and limiting free people's rights is not the way to do it.
Nitrous hates homosexuality. Nitrous loves boobies. Nitrous is gonna go lift weights. Actually I'm open to the idea of homosexuality in society. There is nothing hurtful associated with it. Only happiness of the individuals who practice it.
Not true, biological depression All About Depression: Causes: Genetics Not even going to bother debating you after that stement. Are you saying suicidal people aren't? So you agree we should let people kill themselves and others? I mean no one here really countered my argument. You all act as if I'm saying gays are wrong, I'm not. I am merely stating that the argument that you use to support gays is wrong (and fallacious). I find it funny that you used the argument that i was mocking to defend yourself against the mocking.
Ferretness, you could use your argument with ****ing anything. It doesn't make it a good argument, it's just clever. You could say terrorists for example. Everyone deserves to do what the want, Did you see that? I just came up with one, without thinking barely at all. Your argument is pathetic. Gay people have every ****ing right in the world to be themselves. You are just being an ass about it. You know what, we stop people from killing themselves to preserve human life! If gay people marry eachother will someone die? Will someone get mortally injured? Will someone be paralyzed for life? NO! They won't! You think you are 'tricky' but you are not. I'm pretty much through arguing this point because you are going to say something along the lines of. 'Everyone uses the same argument' And you are doing the exact same thing. ~Randle $candal
Find for me where I said anything remotely like that. By that statement you are (again) equating being homosexual with engaging in criminal activity ("let people kill...others"). It's not illegal to be homosexual in the United States. This is because what your keep saying can only be construed as an argument in the loosest sense of the term. What you seem to be doing is using conjecture to create several sentences, which holds no merit in this debate.
I am applying the logic that you (all) use in the pro-gay debate to advocate it. By taking this logic in another sense it becomes clear that it is fallacious, becuase not all non-harmful, natural things are good. I could have equated it with murder, however that harms others also so it is not as good a comparison. Think about my argument for a little, bfefore replying, and you may see my point. If Suicide were legal my argument would hold the same amount of validity you implied it, i was showing taht you contradicted yourself. Exactly, the argument can be used for multiple "bad" things and is thus invalid. You outlined my point Scandle.
I support gay marriage. I have two awesome friends who are homosexual and I can honestly say that I love and care for them. I've always had a hint that one of my friends was and then he told me, which was cool. The other one just came back into touch with me and he's still really cool. For all the religious people out there who say that marriage is a sacred ritual between a man and a woman, that is taking away a right that everyone should have. I'll also let you know that I am heavily Christan and so it the family that I just got married into. Marriage is a beautiful thing that can be between the same or different sexes. I also don't agree with anyone saying that being homosexual is a mental disease. You can't be born with it, they're all theories. Although I believe that you can however change your orientation from loving men to loving women because of the people who.... try things in college, and from know many bi-sexual people. Honestly, I don't understand why gays get frowned down upon in society. Personally they should be just like everyone else with the same rights as everyone else.
same sex marriage who started this thread? i mean come on a man and a man a woman and a woman... imagine a community like that! what bollocks! btw i am heavily against gays for my own reasons which none of u will ever know about.
Now i see your point....and its invalid gay marriage hurts nobody including yourself (and anybody involved including the people doing it) so yeah.... bad point there besides remember marriage benefits? HELLO! these are important! and everybody deserves a chance at having them.
You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later. In other words, I owe you a neg rep. Back on topic now please guys. EDIT: Oh, thanks java.
i love how you skip anything i say about marriage benefits. AKA we see through your ruse you have been owned