I'm just going to say, throw it out there, you can take it or leave it, but, the only thing I have against gay marriage is that it can lead to the spread of HIV/AIDS through anal...yeah.
Al, that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard from you; for one, the HIV/AIDS disease can spread through any means of sexual intercourse, and for another the spread would only be between one partner to another if they choose to use sexual acts. How does this relate to marriage at all, seeing as you're committing yourself to one partner for the rest of your life?
well not only gays have aids, that was the case until the ****ing bi-sexuals ruined in for the strait people. EDIT: sarcasm by the way^^^^
Same thing with hetero. STDs can be spread through genital-genital contact, genital-other body part contact, or contact with bodily fluids. More than likely, HIV/AIDS was a blood disease that started in monkeys in Africa. Then, when African hunters killed these monkeys, they would drink their blood. Thus, causing the first transmutation of the virus to humans.
The HIV strain was determined by medical examination of homosexual patients, but this does not mean that the strain was not existent for before it was recorded - if anything, these patients helped find the cause, were not the cause of it. This being said, your statement is extremely offensive in general, sarcastic or not. The cause of the disease is not known, meaning it was most likely in existence before recorded findings - bisexuals have nothing to do with this. Source: AIDS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Please, keep this topic upon Gay Marriage and not HIV.
Proof? Medically, it's more likely that the strain of HIV that attacks humans 'jumped' from monkeys. There's a lot of proof behind this. See AIDS Origin: Cameroon Chimpanzees Hypothesis There's little to no correlation on the origin of the disease to homosexual marriage.
I'm not saying the origin of HIV was homosexuals, but there was a point in US history where people believed that HIV was primarily a homosexual disease due to the large number of gay people who got it. It took a while for it to switch to straight people and also to needles and stuff.
Ok, well, I still believe my post to be true, but I can be swayed if someone posts a REALLY good link. It really has nothing to do with the topic of allowing/disallowing gay marriage. In other threads on other boards that I have read, the arguments have strongly convinced me to believe the way I do. In fact, some of the gay people of the board were along with me. I'm not going to go into that any further, as the topic should be steered back on course. Dom, I think I answered your question-it really doesn't relate to marriage.
Google BBC NEWS | Health | HIV origin 'found in wild chimps' The Origin of HIV and the First Cases of AIDS Also as people have already stated, it's not a virus that can only effect gay men. That's kinda stupid to think. It effects all people of any age, sex or race. Please use your head before you post ridiculous comments =] Okay back on topic now pl0x
Before I read the articles, I don't think its fair to say they are ridiculous. Many people think the same way. Many people are against gay marriage. Many people are against many things that I bet you think are ridiculous. edit after reading BBC news article: I read the article, and it has not convinced me all the way. It showed that HIV (or what its called in chimps-SIVcpz) was in chimps, but that the chimps showed no symptoms of the disease. The jump between the death it causes for humans and the lack of the effect in chimps is where I am caught up at. Obviously, chimps are very closely related to humans.
What you're saying may as well be as ridiculous as saying 1+1≠2 Enough of this sillyness, Gay Marriage noa EDIT: Forgot about sig, thanks Nick
What side are you argueing??? It seems you are using sarcasm to actually suggest that being gay can be treated...
No I was using sarcasm to point out that the most commonly used Pro-gay argument is false. So far I have yet to take a "Side" Whether or not It can be treated is irrelevant. Just becuase it is "supposedly" natural and harmless to another does not mean that it is "right" in any sense of the word. You have to understand just because I am pointing out that that argument is false does not mean that I am anti-gay
I’m reading the last few pages over, and I can honestly say that I’m hearing the words "I believe" a lot. The debate forum isn't a place for beliefs, it's a forum to debate logically, and to back up your statements with facts. I would like to say, that some of you are truly ridiculous for thinking that HIV/AIDS was caused by, and spread through homosexuals. HIV/AIDS can be spread through any form of sexual intercourse, it can be spread through blood, saliva, and other bodily fluids. Plus, discussion of HIV/AIDS truly does not belong here. If you want to discuss that matter, take it to a new thread. Now to all the bitching about whether or not Homosexuality is a choice, it's obviously NOT a choice. I have already posted evidence that explains that you are born with your sexual orientation being determined by your own genes. Gravedigger believes that people can change and control their mind, which makes me question his ability to think openly. I’m reading claims that homosexuality is equally as bad as murder, suicide, and robbing a bank, which makes me squirm inside. Set religion aside for a moment. Don't state that it's demonic, or it's sinful. Address this debate with an open mind. Strip away your judgments and hard feelings. Tell me why it's bad to be homosexual, or bi-sexual without telling me it's like suicide. Your sources are entirely irrelevant to your opinions, and you can't seem to get the fact that Homosexuality is something you are born with, and can never change, so why do you keep rephrasing the same old **** you have been saying for a while now? State an educated thought or opinion, then back up your post with truthful and relevant sources.
I think same-sex marriage is alright. I have a gay friend, you wouldn't even know it if he wouldn't have said it. (no, it's not a joke) It's a bit weird IMO, I'll admit that, but I'm not against that. People usually don't pay attention to others, that they don't know anyway, but when it's about something like this, people will start protest and things like that. Why.
That doesn't make any sense. You posted a whole long post about how you want to be able to read facts here-with no facts in it? There is no reason why anyone should just sit back and watch people be gay. They are mostly looking for attention and satisfying their feelings, and it is having a negative impact on themselves and society. Talking to the psychiatrist is just one example of how you can control your feelings. For a long time, many gay people have controlled these feelings, but now, it is legal for gay marriage. And this is causing another problem, now everyone thinks it's okay to be gay, and there are more gay people. As for the bisexual people, they're attracted to the opposite sex as well, so they have no reason to be gay at all, that's purely their choice. The gay people can easily just stay single, gay people should not have children, and they have no reason to be getting married, religion aside, they're just wasting their lives and can have a very negative impact on others. In the same sense that things that are currently illegal discourage people from doing them, if gay marriage was illegal, we could greatly decrease the amount of people who want to be gay, which would have a good impact on all of society. Although most people aren't willing to admit it, they wish they weren't gay, and don't feel comfortable being around them after they admit it. As for the HIV thing, it scientifically makes sense that gay people would transfer HIV easier, but I'm not sure that it's been completely proven yet.