Debate Same Sex Marriage

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  1. Projectt2501

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    Gravedigger... You my friend have been greatly misinformed and do not understand the difference between homosexuality and transsexualism.

    Homosexuality - a sexual attraction to (or sexual relations with) persons of the same sex
    ---http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=homosexuality---

    Transsexualism - Severe gender dysphoria, coupled with a persistent desire for the physical characteristics and social roles that connote the opposite biological sex.
    ---http://www.indianpsychiatry.com/Glossary.htm---

    I do not believe that I am a woman. I know I am a man, and should be a man. I am attracted to men. I think you should have done your research before arguing an invalid argument.

    Regarding my previous post:
    It isn't a choice, I was simply stating that if it was a choice, why should I have to change to the whim of people in society...?
     
  2. Gravedigger5454

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    I got the thing about you thinking your a girl from a source you cited saying that it was in your genes that you were gay. If you know your a man, that's good. And it doesn't matter if you "feel attracted to men," your still choosing yourself to care, and that is not a good choice to make. By making gay marriage legal, we're encouraging gay people to think that having these feelings is okay, and now they want to get married and everything, which isn't at all supposed to happen between gay people. It's becoming a major problem, you can't just change society to try to fit the needs of different people's feelings. There are plenty of things people feel they should do, but really shouldn't, like being gay, killing people, robbing a bank because they need money, eating to much until they get fat, speeding down the road because they don't want their boss to be mad; none of these things are the right thing to do, and even though these people feel the need to do them, they need to figure out how to deal with these feelings, for the better of society as a whole, rather than thinking only of themselves.
     
  3. Soggydoughnuts

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    Being homosexual is equivalent to Robbing a bank?
    Like saying
    Playing Halo is equivalent to hanging kittens in your bathroom

    That doesn't make sense

    -Donuts
     
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    You still have not answered our question how is people who are homosexual being married SPECIFICALLY hurt you. You say that being homosexual is 'wrong' how is this true? please tell us we would like specific answers maybe it is okay to have 'those' feelings does it hurt you? i think not also you still have to remember the ADVANTAGES other than saying your married that homosexuals cannot get simply because they cannot get married this is not just a matter of 'im homosexual and im married yay' there are more reasons than you are taking into account some of these are described in the first post whether you like it or not there is nothing 'wrong' with being homosexual good day-java
     
  5. LOCK.xcf

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    I agree with donuts, that just plain dosnt even come close to making sense
     
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  6. Reynbow

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    This is completely off topic but can I just ask why Gravedigger decided to give Chipsinabox 3 infractions points (Warning) for his apparently insulting tone with Gravedigger in this thread yet Gravedigger seems to be getting away with insulting millions of people? Comparing being gay to murder? And how evil and wrong it is?
    This is incredibly insulting and yet...? I just don't understand. Is this what we call abuse of power?
     
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  7. xxAl Capwnagexx

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    The way this thread is going, it should probably be locked. The gay people of the board will be offended if people don't support gay marriage, or vise versa for people against gay marriage. If I say that I don't support it, then I'll probably be called out. If I do, I could also be called out. I think its just best for the thread to be locked. Too many emotions.
     
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    The only thing I agree with about what you said is that society can't just change to fit the needs of different people's feelings. I'm sick of people thinking the world should bend over and kiss their asses just because they can't handle how shitty our world really is.

    Other than that though, I must say that what you said was pretty ignorant. Equating gays getting married to robbing a bank or killing someone? That's just a tad retarded, my friend. There's nothing wrong with 2 people wanting to have each other's hand in marriage, whether they are dudes or not. Marriage is about loving someone and wanting to spend your life with them.
     
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    I just want to apologize if I offended chips or reynbow or anyone else, really I'm just trying to mediate it so that the debate forum can continue. There's no point in arguing further, obviously (I would hope) someone above gravedigger is going to take care of it.
     
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    Wow. i just read the rest of what Gravedigger said. Wow.
     
  11. Flame Sama

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    Yes, it should be allowed. Give me one good reason it shouldn't be? I mean, same sex marriages last longer than man-woman marriages on average.
     
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    Population...is it a problem in this world? Answer me that.

    Homosexuality. Does it spawn human life? Answer me that.

    How is it a problem, for them to non-intentionally help in the population problem? Answer me that.
    No offense my friends, as I know that may sound extremely rude.

    Seriously, the one thing that is really pissing me off is the problem that people have with homosexuals. What is the big (insert emphasizing word here, you know which one.) deal? I do not see the problem with it, and would like a thorough explanation as to how it is hurting you an me. If you can provide a valid answer, you might be able to shut me up.

    Wow...this forum is something else...

    EDIT: no longer attacking anyone, good point proj
     
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    Guys, lets try to stay on topic, ok?
    I don't want this thread to get out of control and turn into a flame war.
     
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    Well, it would help if you linked to the source that says that, not just thrown it out there and assume everyone will believe it.

    java, just delete your post, the thread has steered away from that now. Just let it go it will be dealt with.

    edit: sorry double post
    edit again: thank you java
     
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    k, i edited my post appropriately proj...hope there is no problem with it now.

    lol, forgot again about sig, thanks proj =]
     
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    i deleted it -_- anyway gravedigger you still never specifically told me and everyone else exactly how gay marriage hurts us i asked the question a while ago and it hasn't been answered please enlighten us.
     
  17. xxAl Capwnagexx

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    I would think that the argument that he would come with-like all people against same sex marriage-is that it disrupts the cornerstone of America, families. After that, he would go on to say that people will start marrying their dogs an cats and house plants. But really, I think he's just going to steer clear of this thread, obviously he strongly believes the way he believes, no point in trying to convince others over the internet really.
     
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  18. Projectt2501

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    Come on guys, don't speak for him, just let him speak. Everyone's opinion is welcome here, even if I (or you) disagree with it, you must respect his right to express it.

    Please refrain from bashing gravedigger for his posts. I want to keep this flame-free, and its getting pretty warm right now...
     
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    I don't see a problem with same sex marriage. We make enough babies as is. I just don't like it when they flaunt their different sexuality. Or w/e.
     
  20. Titmar

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    Gay people flaunting their sexuality in everyone's face and demanding that everyone accept it is not the topic at hand, Metroshell. The topic is same sex marriage.
     
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