Advanced Guide to Respawns

thanks alot, ive had probs with spawns lately

 

thank you for this i could never figure out how to do that effective spawn placement.

 

literally in the works

I was literally in the middle of collecting data to post a topic exactly like this but now i don't have to thanx Devinish

 

you have done the seemingly impossible, good job!

 

Thank you

thank you sooooooo much! i finally see the way to a great map.........thanky you much

 

I smell burning brain cells.... Anyway, thanks for sharing the knowledge! That all seems to make sense.

 

That was VERY intelligent. Although, it was confusing as well. My brain might just explode.

 

This has helped me understand it alot better, I already had a genral idea, but this pinned it down. tanks.

 

also what if we never use spawn areas but just spawns

 

If there are no Spawn Areas, then the map will just act like one big one. It'll try to spawn you as far away from an enemy as possible.

 

How do starting points work?

Do they spawn one player at the beginning at that exact point, and because of the weighting, all the players on that team start near him?

:S

 

thats really helpful thanks

 

very helpful, very relevant. Dev, you really have a way of cutting to the heart of the matter.

 

Wow try reading and comprehending this after 2 hours of sleep lol i had to get some rest before i attempted understanding this. I think i always understood the basic concept now i have a much better grasp of the spawn system in halo 3 so thnks for this very informative post.

 

Ok, i'll try to answer as many questions as I can here:

This is how the game attempts to spawn you in order. You will notice that when you use spawn order, the gome doesn't EXACTLY respawn the players in that order. More of a guideline, and less of a rule.

Well, it IS possible for the game to spawn players of the RED team in spawn points designated by the BLUE team. So my guess is that it puts a really HUGE weight, like -4000 (just a guess) for the opposite team, but if there are also huge negative weights everywhere else on the map, it has no choice but to spawn players in the opposite team's areas.

Correct, enemies, friendlies, deaths in the area all affect the weight of the included spawns.

About a day and a half. All material was made from scratch.

Then you are setting your map up for failure. In addition to:

I'm assuming you have just placed one starting point for each team. But this is a really good question. The weight of the respawn points is not determined until right before the player spawns. So if everyone spawned at the same time, then it would not necessarily be the case that all players spawn near him. So it is best to place starting points for all the players.

However, due to the nature of the game, the HOST spawns first, and this spawn will affect the rest of the points on the map.

I hope this clears some stuff up.

 

What?
Hax!

 

Thanks Devinish. You rock. Rep for you.

 

holy crap, i would have never been able to figure all that out on my own.

but i had fun figuring out the problems, i love solving puzzles like that.

i dont know why bungie cant just explain this stuff to us though.

and good job figurin all the stuff out. now i can use this on the map im workin on.

 

Thanks

Wow Thanks for the help( I think...). I'll try to think of this the next time i get spawn killed

 

wow this is confusing