I think it's possible for gays to born with those quirks just like any other kind of disorder. When we say "it's a choice" we are saying it's a choice wether or not they pursue those crooked desires, that's where the problem lies. And it's not always about wether or not it harms themselves or others, even more improtantly it's about respecting the logos, love God first, love your neighbor second
Speaking from birth, naw gay isnt a choice. That's dumb. Through growth and social environments though there is nurture that certainly flips some people no doubt. Disorder as a term in this context has a stigma around it but literally, yeah being gay is disorder. Which is okay, because disorder is natural.
one step closer the the Beast system spoken of in the bible https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=75s&v=d20H1PjAa3g
its not a choice wether or not you have the disorder, it is a choice wether or not you pursue it. Disorders are not okay, they are imperfections that we all need to fight against
Can we stop with the pathetic ancient religious anti gay ****. And for the record, being gay isn't about anal sex. Imperfections are what thrives nature forward because genetic mutations are the key to evolution. Get your shackled brain and indoctrinated mind of that high horse. I'm glad I live in a society where talk like this is unnaccceptable and very, very, very rare.
Alright, are people here railing against the sudden prevalence of gay couples in popular media etc? For this, I don't have much to say. It is a little frustrating that there are more gay couples in TV shows than appear in real life. It does make it seem like an agenda is being pushed, which is not what most people want with their entertainment. I guess it could be viewed that TV shows tend to have a host of characters which have different/interesting personality traits, and for some people a gay character fills that role. If people are railing against the actions of gay people, then why? I genuinely don't know why you care. If I am missing the point entirely, I'd be happy for people to tell me.
why would anyone in this day and age subject themselves to the ammount of backlash and mockery recieved when preaching the good word? It's because we do it for you guys, there are lost souls in danger of hell fire because of their rebellion and there is only one way to salvation
Please don't pretend like it is people "preching the good word" alone who receive backlash and mockery. You can just as easily say "Why would anybody in this day and age (or past ages where it was even worse) subject themselves to backlash and mockery and choose to be gay?" (which I know you surprisingly did not say, but others in this thread have). Neither side is faultless, and it's just an inherent bias to assume they are. As for the second part, fair enough. If that's your reasoning, then fine. But it is inherently abrasive to tell people they have a disorder, and many people are likely to get upset if threatened with hellfire. Perhaps an alternative path is required to spread the "good" word.
I think this is where facts dont care about your feelings comes into play. Being gay is a disorder. Dont teach that its not a disorder. Teach that theres no shame in having the disorder because its majorly harmless to you and others. Why this method though? Because otherwise you end up with a slippery slope where you now have normalization of gender dysphoria which has insanely high rates of self harm such as genital mutilation and suicide that has been studied to have little correlation to societal pressures. Then it gets extremely slippery where the normalization of pedophilia is now surfacing. A disorder thats harmless to self but majorly harmful to others being children. Gay and pedophilia fall into the same category of minor sexual preference differences yet major differences in consequences. Would you teach theyre both normal? No because pedophilia is not ****ing normal and otherwise youre logically inconsistent or joe biden. Also in some other sick twisted world transgenderism and hormonal therapy is being forced upon children... but i wont go there.
@LargerFiend As for that Joe Rogan thing. I was just giving an example of how bias has negatively affected the integrity of studies that have been done. It happens on both sides and that first paragraph is me trying to understand how modern society could make something that is a choice appear not to be a choice. The only real data that supports it possibly being a choice is the fact that many gay people were sexually abused as children. Which isn't overly strong evidence. Considering it is one of the few things that support this view. I honestly don't know whether being gay is a choice or not because A) I am not gay and B) I don't think we are quite at the point where we could actually say based on the info at hand. Probably, in the next ten years we will have a better idea about a lot of these things the left and right argue about.
The last thing I’m doing is like farming. And @purely fat i can understand everyone’s points here all day but I am a Christian and will be looking at all of this from a biblical view point which automatically rules my side out due to the 98% of the Internet that doesn’t believe in God. So if you look at it from a biblical side, sex was intended for reproduction but God did make it feel good but still intended it for a married couple to share that pleasure together as a beautiful thing between each other (while reproducing). With that said, being gay is wrong imo because you simply can not reproduce. There is no middle ground, it’s hot or cold. So if sex can’t be used for its intended purpose in a gay relationship then a gay relationship is wrong. I now being gay isn’t all about anal sex I am not stupid, but how many male gay couples are together and NOT having anal sex lol? Anal sex is not healthy either, by any means. It may not kill you but it’s doing damage to the butthole and makes it worse the more it happens. So another point, if it isn’t healthy, it shouldn’t be done. I am not as “good” a Christian as Soldat I guess because I don’t preach here (used to back in 2008-2010ish lol) but if I get down to the real nitty gritty that’s our job. We believe God is real and Jesus Christ came down and lived a perfect life and was crucified for all our sins. Thanks to Him, we now have a gateway directly to God to ask for forgiveness and make it to Heaven when we pass away. All we have to do is believe Jesus truly did that for us and we are in. Nobody is perfect or sinless and that is why Jesus lived sinless for us. God is real and as much as you all deny him every day I know he is real thanks to personal life experiences where not only He proved He is real, but so did the devil. So when we are so passionate about this belief it hurts us to see how deep our society has gone in to widely accepting such sinful behaviors as a normal thing (not only talking about homosexuality, there is porn, drugs, etc). That’s what got an entire nation (sodom and Gomorrah) destroyed. With that said, I condemn nobody to Hell. That’s not my job. I know several gay people and they are friends/family. I don’t tell them they are going to hell but in the end I believe they are if they don’t accept Jesus Christ as their Saviour (died for their sins and stuff).
This is totally a logical statement. Here I spent all this time typing and all I had to do was say: Gayness is dog, gay sex even more so. Save it for hell pal. Thanks for that! Just a little late.