What Are You Working On?

Discussion in 'Halo and Forge Discussion' started by ForgeHub, Jul 12, 2013.

  1. Yeti For Hire

    Yeti For Hire Legendary
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    The account says ForgeHub, but all I'm seeing is Warholic.
     
  2. qrrby

    qrrby Waggly piece of flesh
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    SOOOOOOO I heard you guys like information, right?

    Here's what I know of the whole shitshow that has been this week:

    The reason Xandrith got banned for calling a staff member a ***** was because he's historically acted like a *****. Ban after ban of 1 day to 1 week wasn't doing anything. So for the past few months or so, xan had been operating on the site with his warning resets removed. This means that no matter the infraction, it will automatically be bumped up to the next level of ban. Multi was on the same track a year or so ago, but he started reserving himself more (mad respeck for that, thanks). Even xan had starting putting a kabosh on the word ******, so he was well on his way to having the Xandrith clause removed. Said clause was put into place and suggested by myself, because I was tired of having the same empty conversation over and over again.



    Now, as far as the whole port VS multi thing, what I said before is what I still believe to be true. Port is getting married, and has been preparing for it all year. I really don't think ending multis career at 343 was in his schedule between choosing napkins and listening to his fiance ride him ragged. I also don't believe multi is lying either just to **** with and tear down Forgehub. Someone from Forgehubs past is responsible for this, and was smart enough and in the know enough about Forgehub that they used port as a scapegoat.

    Multi was perma'd because he asked to be. I have seen the screen caps of it and know it to be true. Whether or not he was joking is of no consequence. If you're gonna joke about that during this kind of blow up don't expect that we won't follow through lol. He would have gotten a normal ban for dragging port through the mud *even though he believes it was in the name of justice*. This might not be the same caliber, but it is the same situation of witch hunting. I'm surprised that multi was so vehemently active in forwarding the hunt, because to me (no matter who they are) I wouldn't want anyone to go through that again. Port is miserable right now, and he thinks everyone hates him, so mission accomplished there.

    And then there's the whole disconnect with the staff. I've been pleading waywos case for more information for as long as the first real dissent started showing up a few days. The staff as a whole didn't think this was this was the way to go, so I accepted that maybe I was to emotionally vested to make a decision here and let it be. Then the message from the FH tag came and I lost my ****. It was then I knew that I know waywo, and I know your hearts here. So here I am, making my case as I did to the staff moments ago. The staff and members don't seem to trust each other (hello fh past again) but you both seem to trust me. So please trust that both sides have been fighting for either truth or righteousness, and that the only foe that remains is the unknown ***** that started all of this.

    While everyone here could have had more TACT in their line of questioning, I hope this really clears things up now.
     
  3. HeX Reapers

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  4. Mags

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    you ate last night
     
  5. HeX Reapers

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    yeah well those two donuts couldn't hold me down what can i say
     
  6. Zombievillan

    Zombievillan Ancient
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    Pffffft
     
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  7. Yevah

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    I don’t really care about the witch hunt. In my opinion that is not what this has been about.

    You guys banned someone for 6 months for calling someone a ***** when you have let him bully people for pages upon pages. It looks like an abuse of power.

    On top of that there is absolutely no explanation until days later. I get that Xan had multiple warnings, but it’s just a bad look when you let him off the hook for bullying one member and calling him worse than a *****, but ban him for half a year for giving one insult to a mod.

    Yes there is a distrust with the members here and the staff. And it’s because of how situations like this were handled that make it this way.
     
  8. qrrby

    qrrby Waggly piece of flesh
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    That's part of the reason he was banned for 6 months though, is because he had no filter and would constantly abuse things. Letting him know his ban reset is removed was my way of saying "this is your last chance".

    Going from that, his punishments have increased bit by bit according to that system in place. I haven't wanted to do anything harsher than stick to that system because I believe it would constitute what you're worried about, an abuse of power.

    As far as the time frame is considered, sorry it took this long, but I myself was unsure at the start if telling everyone what a bad boy Xandrith can be was the best course of action. That being said, I only started pushing for more transparency in these last 2 days and have just now come to the agreement of letting me handle more of the situation.

    To be honest I wanted nothing to do with the situation, because the whole thing is ****ing stupid to me and I didn't want to lash out at either party. I think I've done that well enough now that I'm involved, but this is going to take more time before we reach the conclusion.

    Imo no one will be as happy with anything as they want to be, so I'm not really trying to solve anything. I'm shooting for "acceptable".


    More when I get back from work
     
  9. xzamplez

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    I dont hate you @Portaleer . Youve always been a respectful guy.
     
  10. Ryouji Gunblade

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    Port makes better 343-style maps than 343. Can't hate on that.
     
  11. GrayishPoppy210

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    Thank god for Qrrby to bridge the divide between mods and WAYWOians. Can I get an Amen?

    Honestly though it's great to have a mod that is part of this community like that. Really helps with communications in situations like this. Everyone has been a bit quick to judge here, I think, so it's nice to have the story explained.

    Also, I'm not dissing the other staff. You all do other things for the site.

    I got plenty other thoughts on this but I think it's better we let the situation die. No one cares about my opinion of the parties involved. Let's all just be nice and not jump straight to insulting each other before we get the facts (tbf we do that a lot here, myself included).
     
  12. Zombievillan

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    I don’t consider what I’ve said to be a part of a “witch hunt”. Like I said I don’t know if it was Portaleer or not and have nothing to confirm either way. I’m not lashing out at him or attacking him for that either. My issue was Xandrith getting banned for calling him a *****. I was under the impression he pulled rank or position and banned Xandrith over it which is bull imo because there’s plenty worse going on in the WAYWO daily so that shouldn’t be a ban able offense. That made port look guilty as hell in plenty eyes but it’s still not concrete evidence he pulled the ***** ass Multi scandal so I can’t blame him for that. Therefore no witch hunt.

    I’ll be done with the subject on that note.
     
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  13. GrayishPoppy210

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    I think the calling port a ***** was more of a last straw than the whole reason for a ban and I'm sure it was more than just calling him a ***** anyway. Have you met Xandrith?
     
  14. MULLERTJE

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    Maybe 14 days would've been more realistic.

    Last time he was banned for what 48 hours? Or a week? Seems like a huge leap but hey, I don't know how the warnings are send and in what context or shape.

    I can imagine it's annoying to be the waywo police officer and asking to behave and all. I mean a ban comes with some reasoning and a statement right?

    But six months jeez.
     
  15. K a n t a l o p e

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    I wouldn't call that a complement
     
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  16. Goat

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  17. MULLERTJE

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    So..."What Are You"?
     
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  18. GrayishPoppy210

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    Can't we just all stay here. I don't wanna go... This doesn't have to be the end. Does it?
     
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  19. MULLERTJE

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    Let this whole ban shebang not distract you from the fact we're months behind on the comm favs.

    Has the plug been pulled?
     
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  20. The Omicron

    The Omicron a permabanned Amish boy
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    You are correct and we have no excuse at this point for the delay. Motivation hasnt been high on my part as I've had Halo on the back burner as of recent. What might be easier to do is to just release the results in a more streamlined article approach (no interview questions and shorter introductions/map overviews). I know this isnt ideal but would help get the results out there at the very least.
     

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