PSA. Due to feedback from the community we have decided to update the gametype from Default Team Slayer to Team Arenas Settings for the 4v4 Forge Contest. In the Custom lobby the game type can be found under 343 Industries and is called Slayer HCS. For those who do not know the main changes, here they are.

Radar only shows shooting and spartan abilitys.
Ground Pound and Spartan Charge is disabled

Thank you for you feedback and we will let you know of any other changes going forward.

Thanks and happy forging.
Sethiroth

This is awesome!!

Eventually, I will make a ship in every Forge mode. I'm not Forging in H5 right now, because I don't have to. 343i said they're adding a Custom Games browser to MCC. If that actually happens, I should be able to use the maps I already have to start recruiting for my Spartan Company. Thank you for asking.

That doesn't mean that I consider the issues I brought up to be "minute details," though.

It just seems like you only pop into forgehub to argue with people about things you're never involved in.

Heh. I thought that's how it worked here

God bless forge hub. Thanks for keeping halo 5 forge alive

bruh it be a hawhaw

What is the size limit to the map?

What ever you think works for 4v4. Just remember what you think and what others think is different so maybe don't start building until you see a few maps or go look at other 4v4 maps as a reference point.

I know it seems that way. It isn’t that I like arguments. If fact, I despise them. So unproductive. I can't help it if Forgehub has monopolized the Forge community. Everyone looking for maps has to look here. 343i has apparently decided that it would be easier if all the Forgers were in the same place. And it’s hard to blame them. It makes sense on paper, get all the Forgers together and they’ll help each other to get better at Forging. It worked for the competitive community right? They got together, in the spirit of competition, and united the Halo community so that we could all learn how to become better gamers and more full actualized human beings, right?


No they didn’t. They don’t even really try to teach anyone how to play. At least, not anyone who really needs the help. Oh sure, people like you and I have a place, if we want it. But people like Stardriver? No way. Don't even think about it.


Someone who is eleven years old today is the same age that I was when I first started playing Halo. And yet, that person has absolutely no possible chance of their opinions being taken seriously. Just because they're young, they get treated as if they don't deserve to play. And it isn't much different for other minorities. I can't remember a Halo tournament that had an all black, or an all female team make it to the final four. Why is that? Do these people not enjoy competition? Or do they just not have the passion it takes to succeed?


I think the real answer is far less comfortable. I believe that the competitive community only actively supports the people who are already the most statistically likely to succeed. Because they understand that doing so will ultimately increase their own odds of success.


The Forge community is following this example. Anyone who doesn't meet the description above is, effectively, encouraged to give up. There is a perfect example of this happening in the last Forge contest.


Link to thread.

I can't Forge anymore.


In this particular case, the discouragement seems to be mostly a knee-jerk reaction to any negative feedback. The OP says that there are TWO reasons for why he can't Forge. The primary one being that he doesn't have his own Xbox. None of the people who came in to offer their “advice” acknowledged this fact. Like I said, they just reacted to what they viewed as “negative feedback,” and it's hard to blame them.


Now I should note that I'm only using this thread as an example because it happened so recently. But the reaction is the part that is typical, not the OP. The OP is the unusual part. Most times, when people feel discouraged and want to leave a gaming community, they just leave.


Obviously, I'm not suggesting that Forge contests are to blame for people abandoning ship across the entire Halo community. In fact, I view it as more of a symptom of a larger problem. A problem which I call “Halo’s dilemma.”


Halo’s dilemma is a systemic problem with the entire gaming industry. Notice here that I don’t call it “The Halo Dilemma.” This is because I do not believe that Halo is the cause of the problem. Rather, I choose to believe that Halo is, or can be, part of the solution to the problem.


I am not blaming you. I am not blaming your friends. I am not blaming the Forge contests. I am not blaming Forgehub. I am not blaming 343i. I am not blaming Microsoft. I am not blaming competitive gaming in general. I am not blaming politics. I am not blaming climate change. I am not blaming the misalignment of Jupiter. THIS IS NOT ABOUT BLAME! I can not stress that enough.


Blaming others is how systemic problems START, not how they END! Yes, clearly I am frustrated with the community. But, you can’t blame my frustration as the cause of the problem.


And just to prove that I am not trying to blame Halo’s dilemma on Forgehub, I will name two other examples of communities with symptoms of the same problem.


Example #1

The story.


Link to haruspis.blog

343’s growing problem with Halo’s endings.


This makes a good example, because again, it is recent. Also it’s just convenient because this particular blog addresses an issue with the literature that I have also noticed. A lot of the stories end up pretty much where they began. At the same time 343i is adding all these new characters, factions, and locations to the canon. I think the reason they’re doing this is to allow more space in the canon for fans to write their own fanfiction. In the long run I think it’s for the better because it solves another problem with writing fanfiction that has been in the game from the beginning. If you want to write some fanfiction about the Covenant War, you pretty much have an unlimited number of bad guys, but a only a limited number of Spartan IIs. That makes writing a plotline tricky, but at least we know how the Covenant War ends. The problem now is that we don’t know where the story’s going, so anything we write could turn out to be in conflict with the canon. That’s why I think it’s good that 343i has decided to examine the Covenant War era a little bit further.


If they hadn’t blown up Requiem, we could have been writing about that. Jul had what he wanted, the Janus Key, or thought he did. He could have just left. Lasky and the Infinity could’ve kept fighting the rest of the Covenant fleet.

(Janus is the Roman god of entrances and exits. So why would he need a key?)


Example #2

The HCS settings


Link to waypoint

Forge Maps and Abilities


I wish they hadn't done this. Remove the Spartan Charge and Ground Pound, I mean.

Personally, I think it cheapens the previous championships, but the competitors don't seem to mind. Still, I don't like 343i excuses. First of all Spartan Charge and Ground Pound are new abilities. 343i put them in the game for the new people. Furthermore, both those abilities are designed to help the player traverse the map as quickly as possible. Specifically, by breaking through destructible walls and roofs. Just look at the opening cutscene of Halo 5.


Are there any destructible walls or roofs in the HCS? Or any of the Arena maps, for that matter? I know of a few in Warzone. But, they are kinda out of the way and don't really go anywhere.

More to the point, can you blame the competitors for using the new abilities outside their intended use, when there was no prospect for using them as designed?


These are just two other symptoms of what I call Halo's dilemma. But like I said, the real dilemma is a systemic problem that affects the entire gaming industry. It’s just that there are certain facts about Halo that make it a superlative example.


Anyway, sorry for the long post. I know how you dislike reading. Hopefully, this will help explain my seemingly bizarre impulses.

You're not sorry

nobody cares

TIL That spartan charge and ground pound were created for the NEW players.

I could've made it a lot longer. I can always dig out a copy of The Art of War and turn this whole thing into an ancient history lesson.

What does "TIL" mean?

I think you mean, "Nobody else cares."
Because I'm somebody, and I care. Unless you mean to assert that I am nobody. But, that would be objectifying me, wouldn't it?

that's subjective

I doubt that. Ancient history is an interesting topic

This is awesome! Cant wait to see all the new maps.