I don't disagree with what you're saying, but it doesn't tell the full story. Any time you start talking about this stuff from the standpoint of either instead of both, the conclusions are inevitably going to be incomplete. Even a Hivemind requires relativism. Without something separate from a Hivemind, there's no perspective that allows it to be seen as a Hivemind. The only argument I've ever heard that I can get totally behind is one that includes all possibilities within it; one that considers both/and rather than falling back into either/or. This conversation should really be taking place in WAYWO so we can make page 1000 something special.
"Without something separate from a Hivemind, there's no perspective that allows it to be seen as a Hivemind." Well, to have positive space, you need negetive space. So in this way i think i agree with you? But the problem with our universe is that we are disrupting the ballence of order and chaos. You can get a + out of - & + , But you can't get a + out of - & - Does that make sense? Our universe can be alikened to a tree branch that is rotting. A rotting branch cannot sprout fruit or flowers or even more branches. It must be cut off in order to create more + space
Wait math told me that a positive and a negative cannot give you a positive but two negatives can or are we only talking about addition and multiplication doesn't matter.
I know we're talking in analogies, so it's kind of a pointless discussion, but if there is order, then any chaos that happens within it is part of the order rather than a disruption to the order. From that perspective, the chaos is ordered, and so it's not really chaos. It just looks chaotic from our restricted point of view. Death is part of the life cycle. An assumption that because something is dying it is 'out of order' or 'wrong' isn't taking this into account.
Just combine the ancient symbols of the ouroboros and the flower of life. Boom ordered chaos. Also, what religions would people be interested in hearing about? Also, people don't be afraid to shitpost. Don't get offended. If you are offended, come to me. I will take care of it. I think since this is off topic we can get along and shitpost are brains out while also having a completely different debate and some stupid ass newsletter every week. lol If anybody asks a question about what is going on in this thread because they are confused about its' content. Tell them to share an opinion in the thread... or a meme... or copypasta... or recipes for cooking.
I don't understand what angle you are comming from, you def don't understand what i was trying to say either We should talk about this stuff in party chat, it's easier to follow through with individual points and is benificial for understanding eachother, talking about this stuff is my happy place --- Double Post Merged, Sep 28, 2017 --- It's basic math
I wasn't really coming from anywhere or going anywhere, lol. I was just responding to the points I thought you were making in the post I quoted. I find these kind of discussions interesting in moderation. I get bored of them pretty quickly though because there's never any conclusion to them. It's just everyone saying what they believe, or explaining the reality they think the 'evidence' supports. It always ends up going in circles. I typically only like going around that circle once, and then I'm done with it. Regardless, I can't talk in party chat. The only time I'm ever able to get online is after everyone in the house is in bed. Talking to people online while everyone is trying to sleep would be bad for my well-being. We can just end the conversation here.
Dear Magician, Today we’re going to discuss a hotbed topic that flies under the radar of most people, while others (even magicians) will openly reject this simple, but profound truth. It concerns a passage in the Bible that states, “There is nothing new under the Sun.” (Ecclesiastes 1:4:11) This has been adopted as a modern idiom that basically means everything we know already exists as a body of knowledge which has been discovered somewhere on this Earth. This idea is patently false. Even at the peak of modern human understanding, we still only understand a tiny fraction of all that exists. The vast majority of human knowledge is still focused on the atomic universe! It’s like seeing reality through an infinitesimal pinhole and having the arrogance to claim “this is all that exists, and there is nothing new under the sun.” Our modern scientists have only begun to discover the subatomic world in the last few decades and the idea of parallel universes and extra-dimensional realities has only just stepped outside of the world of pure science-fiction, into the realm of actual possibility. New discoveries are being made all the time that abolish previous long-held scientific (and magical) theories. So to think that just because we haven’t ‘figured it out yet’ it cannot be possible, is foolish. Anything and everything is possible. And my trusted friend & colleague, Nineveh Shadrach is a living testament to this truth. https://www.spreaker.com/user/ltvradio/nineveh-shadrach-and-summoning-the-djinn (You can skip ahead to 25:52 to get right to Nineveh’s incredible interview). Once a skeptic, his explorations and discoveries about realms that exist beyond our own, and his interactions with living entities that reside therein have changed his entire worldview. For the last 25 years, he has been teaching others about these mysterious creatures that have been referenced in every part of the world, who existed before humans walked the Earth. Nineveh Shadrach is an esoteric author, teacher, initiator and member of the Magic Society of the White Flame. His father was an initiated Sufi and practitioner of Near Eastern Magic. He’s the author of Magic That Works: Practical Training of the Children of Light, Love Healing Prosperity Through the Occult Powers of the Alphabet, The Occult Encyclopedia of Magic Squares, The Tree of Life and Magic Squares, Ancient Conjuration of Power: Practical Guide to the Berhatiah, and the chief translator of The Book of Deadly Names, The Grand Key of Solomon, Red Magic, and Harut and Marut. Nineveh is also one of the most highly respected authorities in the world on Jinn Magic. I was just browsing a few popular magick forums the other day, and almost everywhere the Jinn or Jinn Magic is mentioned, you’ll see people pointing to Nineveh Shadrach as the “go to” resource for authentic, expert advice and training on the subject of the Jinn. These are truly magical, living entities. And they are masters of manifestation. Unlike demons, you don’t need to make “pacts” with them or do sacrifices to appease them. Some of them actually enjoy the company of humans and willingly lend their powers to benefit the magician who calls upon them. In a recent interview Nineveh did for the Lighting the Void podcast, he goes into great detail on these magical beings and the awesome powers they possess. He also tells of some pretty “hair raising” stories of what can happen when you work with the wrong ones, or piss them off! If you have any interest whatsoever in working with the mighty Jinn, I implore you to listen to this entire podcast. Nineveh blew the minds of those who interviewed him and left them speechless. You can listen to the full podcast at this link below: https://www.spreaker.com/user/ltvradio/nineveh-shadrach-and-summoning-the-djinn You can skip ahead to 25:52 to get right to Nineveh’s incredible interview. This is manifesting taken to a whole new level. Beyond the shroud of myth and fear, contacting the Jinn is exciting and full of possibilities. These are not evil beings. But they don’t play around, either. Treat them with respect and they will reward you with physical manifestations beyond your wildest dreams. Stay tuned, because Nineveh has a secret surprise that’s going to knock your socks off. I’m not letting the genie out of the bottle just yet. You should prepare yourself by hearing the podcast. --- Double Post Merged, Sep 29, 2017 --- I know I just can't miss an opportunity to give someone a brain aneurysm.
This is so painful to read, this guy has absolutely no idea what king solomon is talking about "7All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again. 8All things are full of labour; man cannot utter it: the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled with hearing. 9The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. 10Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us." He's pointing out objective facts, not his personal conjecture. All things are made up the base components, matter in motion, there is litteraly nothing new under the sun. From a limited human perspective, we do discover new things. But objectively speaking, all things continue the same since the begining of creation
Dear Magician, Today is a very special day. If you heard the incredible interview given by Nineveh Shadrach yesterday, then you already know what the mighty Jinn are capable of (for better or worse)... If you missed it, I highly encourage you to find that email in your inbox and go hear it now. Nineveh is the world’s foremost expert on Jinn Magic, and his books are a living testament to his intimate knowledge of these magical entities and the supernatural powers they possess. If you’ve been wishing that ‘something’ would finally come along that would give you a serious advantage… assist you becoming the most powerful magician you can be… the kind of magician you first believed in when you entered the world of magick… The kind of magician who can create physical changes in the structure of reality itself… Then today is your lucky day because the mighty Jinn are here to assist you! I cannot legally say that you will absolutely obtain these supernatural powers. But what I can tell you with confidence after what I’ve experienced myself working with them -- is that you must abandon everything you think is fantasy because they DO possess these amazing talents. After working with them intimately for 25 years, Nineveh has witnessed these entities perform the miraculous feats that were only mentioned in ancient grimoires and are still considered impossible by even the highest level adepts and magicians. I must warn you -- what you’re about to discover is for serious magicians only. It’s only for those who aren’t afraid to dive head-first into unknown territory to unveil the mysteries hidden deeply within… It’s for those of us who NEED to see, feel, hear and *LIVE* “real magic.” We’ve all heard stories of powerful men and women who have risen to power through the aid of magic. But many of them conjured demons and made pacts with them to accomplish their goals, and oftentimes they were ultimately destroyed by them. Have you ever stopped to ask yourself WHY such powerful sorcerers, wizards and warlocks who are promised wealth beyond measure, often end up penniless, broken and insane? Even some who have purported to be in constant contact with the Jinn Kings and Queens were granted untold fortunes and power… but then they too, were ultimately destroyed. Maybe they’re missing something. Perhaps they were intentionally mislead. My friend Nineveh has spent a majority of his life searching for these answers… Here’s a taste of what he’s discovered: ● Through his own trial and error, he’s discovered the Jinn who are benevolent to humans, and also those who hate humans and seek to destroy them… (this is crucial knowledge!) ● He has uncovered the sacred names of 720 Jinn that can assist with just about every area of your life that you can imagine. (Click Here for the Full List… it’s huge!) ● He’s combined three simple magical methods that can 3x your chances at having a truly extraordinary experience with contacting the Jinn and pulling them to you… ● He has formulated the “Golden Mean” form of each of their names which magnetizes the spirits to you with mathematical precision… ● He’s even revealed the specific frequencies designed to attract the Jinn via sound! But that’s not all… Nineveh’s incredible journey into the realm of the Jinn has also unveiled the most powerful Jinn known to mankind. His name is Jan and he commands 13 loyal servitors who can grant any wish you desire with ferocity and raw power. (There’s literally too much more to list here) And today, you can get your hands on Nineveh’s ENTIRE collection of Jinn Magic! This magic isn’t to be taken lightly. Like I said before, this is for serious magicians only and just because you obtain the knowledge to perform these feats, doesn’t mean you should use them. It can be easy to abuse this knowledge, and utterly destroy your life in the process. That’s why we’re only making this available to a select few and for a very limited time. I cannot state it strongly enough… those who are tempted to use this for “black magick” purposes, who are selfish and desire control over others, will likely be destroyed. It is said that death is the most merciful thing that can happen from a Jinn curse. But if you are pure of heart… you have honest intentions and seek genuine assistance to improve your life, health, wealth, relationships, well-being and so much more… Then there is literally nothing that compares to getting assistance from the Jinn. What you’ll see on the next page is everything you’re going to get when you take the opportunity that’s being handed to you on a silver platter to save HUNDREDS of dollars by obtaining Nineveh Shadrach’s entire collection of Jinn Magic all at once… >> CLICK HERE NOW TO SECURE YOUR COPY TODAY This is a truly priceless collection that is not available anywhere else in the world. And it’s available for immediate download from that page only. But you’ve got an extremely limited time to pick this up, before we take this offline. Once the timer hits zero, this offer will be gone forever. DOWNLOAD NOW, WHILE YOU STILL CAN!
Dear Magician, I am really excited about today. If you heard the incredible interview given by Nineveh Shadrach yesterday, then you already know what the mighty Jinn are capable of (for better or worse)... If you missed it, I highly encourage you to find that email in your inbox and go hear it now. Nineveh is the world’s foremost expert on Jinn Magic, and his books are a living testament to his intimate knowledge of these magical entities and the supernatural powers they possess. If you’ve been wishing that ‘something’ would finally come along that would give you a serious advantage… assist you becoming the most powerful magician you can be… the kind of magician you first believed in when you entered the world of magick… The kind of magician who can create physical changes in the structure of reality itself… Then today is your lucky day because the mighty Jinn are here to assist you! I cannot legally say that you will absolutely obtain these supernatural powers. But what I can tell you with confidence after what I’ve experienced myself working with them -- is that you must abandon everything you think is fantasy because they DO possess these amazing talents. After working with them intimately for 25 years, Nineveh has witnessed these entities perform the miraculous feats that were only mentioned in ancient grimoires and are still considered impossible by even the highest level adepts and magicians. I must warn you -- what you’re about to discover is for serious magicians only. It’s only for those who aren’t afraid to dive head-first into unknown territory to unveil the mysteries hidden deeply within… It’s for those of us who NEED to see, feel, hear and *LIVE* “real magic.” We’ve all heard stories of powerful men and women who have risen to power through the aid of magic. But many of them conjured demons and made pacts with them to accomplish their goals, and oftentimes they were ultimately destroyed by them. Have you ever stopped to ask yourself WHY such powerful sorcerers, wizards and warlocks who are promised wealth beyond measure, often end up penniless, broken and insane? Even some who have purported to be in constant contact with the Jinn Kings and Queens were granted untold fortunes and power… but then they too, were ultimately destroyed. Maybe they’re missing something. Perhaps they were intentionally mislead. My friend Nineveh has spent a majority of his life searching for these answers… Here’s a taste of what he’s discovered: ● Through his own trial and error, he’s discovered the Jinn who are benevolent to humans, and also those who hate humans and seek to destroy them… (this is crucial knowledge!) ● He has uncovered the sacred names of 720 Jinn that can assist with just about every area of your life that you can imagine. (Click Here for the Full List… it’s huge!) ● He’s combined three simple magical methods that can 3x your chances at having a truly extraordinary experience with contacting the Jinn and pulling them to you… ● He has formulated the “Golden Mean” form of each of their names which magnetizes the spirits to you with mathematical precision… ● He’s even revealed the specific frequencies designed to attract the Jinn via sound! But that’s not all… Nineveh’s incredible journey into the realm of the Jinn has also unveiled the most powerful Jinn known to mankind. His name is Jan and he commands 13 loyal servitors who can grant any wish you desire with ferocity and raw power. (There’s literally too much more to list here) And today, you can get your hands on Nineveh’s ENTIRE collection of Jinn Magic! This magic isn’t to be taken lightly. Like I said before, this is for serious magicians only and just because you obtain the knowledge to perform these feats, doesn’t mean you should use them. It can be easy to abuse this knowledge, and utterly destroy your life in the process. That’s why we’re only making this available to a select few and for a very limited time. I cannot state it strongly enough… those who are tempted to use this for “black magick” purposes, who are selfish and desire control over others, will likely be destroyed. It is said that death is the most merciful thing that can happen from a Jinn curse. But if you are pure of heart… you have honest intentions and seek genuine assistance to improve your life, health, wealth, relationships, well-being and so much more… Then there is literally nothing that compares to getting assistance from the Jinn. What you’ll see on the next page is everything you’re going to get when you take the opportunity that’s being handed to you on a silver platter to save HUNDREDS of dollars by obtaining Nineveh Shadrach’s entire collection of Jinn Magic all at once… >> CLICK HERE NOW TO SECURE YOUR COPY TODAY This is a truly priceless collection that is not available anywhere else in the world. And it’s available for immediate download from that page only. But you’ve got an extremely limited time to pick this up, before we take this offline. Once the timer hits zero, this offer will be gone forever. DOWNLOAD NOW, WHILE YOU STILL CAN!
Dear Magician, As you know, the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn is a "solar" spiritual tradition. We work for the solar ascension of mankind. Golden Dawn Cancellaria Leslie McQuade now broadcasts sunrise and sunset live from Alpha Omega temple every day on Periscope. What better way to get more in synch with Leslie and me, than to watch sunrise and/or sunset daily with us! Join us whenever you like. You can find Leslie’s Periscope channel here. https://www.pscp.tv/LeslieMcQuade/1djGXLNePLyGZ