What in the Halo!!!

Discussion in 'Halo and Forge Discussion' started by Preacher001, May 9, 2017.

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  1. Preacher001

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    With 343 back tracking on Halo stuff that kinda needed to be backtracked on, I thought I would ask around to find out what all you resident Halo players, Halo fans, Halo Elitist and general know it alls think about how Halo 6 is already starting to be handled, and where in you unhumble opinion it should be going.

    If I'm hearing right it sounds like we're going back to the classic Halo 1,2,3 campaign format with our split screen back where it should have been. The problem is that, like it or not the newer Halo titles have brought in a new generation of Halo players who have come to expect different things than the old timers do. Consideration must be made for what they are going to lose as well.


    Kind of on/off topic I've decided to include the broader strokes of my Halo 6 wish list

    -Halo 1,2,3's more simplistic and dark art style, with that Halo 1A, 2A magic
    -It needs to be the Chiefs story. with focus on him for at least for 80% of the game.
    -**Humor** Can't stress this enough (Still laughing at dumb **** I hear in the originals)
    -No new weapons unless they are unique. The original alien weapons were playful and fantastic. They were immediately distinctly recognizable by color, sound and movement. None of them felt like a rehash.
    -More story on the go. Think classic Halo meets Drakes uncharted.
    -Get Cortana back (I think having her program/personality split in two is an easy route)
    -Dial down the whole god like enemy. There's a difference between fighting zealots and fighting gods.
    -I would like 4 player split co-op but require a minimum 2 player split
    -***4 player split multi***
    -original trilogy music style. It doesn't have to be the same but it needs to feel similar.
    -include a Warzone like game mode but also offer private matches with no minimum player count.
    -include all original multiplayer gametypes
    -build unique multiplayer maps more in line with what we saw from the original trilogy
    -keep the story in the game (including the Chiefs controversy and false death within Halo 6's game would have made for a far more deep and entertaining game)
    -include more and crazier campaign mods (Super Fiesta, Rockets only, random gravity ect...)
    -for the majority of the game, keep it lite. I don't need the game to constantly be pushing the feels. I submit Guardians of the Galaxy 1 vs 2 as my proof of good vs over done drama.
    -**Keep the free content coming**


    Full featured Forge editor, with an easy mode for beginners
    ****Objects are for decorating not for map building****
    -include a texture crafting tool**
    -include an object building tool**
    -include liquid volumes**
    -include gas volumes**
    -include skybox building tool**
    -include terrain editor**
    **All craftable Forge features should be able to be shared
    -include access to in game assets
    -include water/liquid assets
    -offer complete control over all aspects of individual and environmental lighting
    -include the ability to add bots with configurable AI and pathing
    -let us build Warzone like maps
    -Let us build campaign like maps

    Cool idea - Make the campaign more dynamic. Allow different teammates to open up *subtle* path variations in how you progress through the campaign environments. With this, Include new random dialog that offers insights into the characters and the overall Halo universe.


    On a similar but separate note:
    Make a completely separate FPS game that explores the Halo Universe with nary a mention of the chiefs existence. In there let us learn of new epic stories that stand completely on their own. It's not that I'm not willing to play a Halo FPS without the Chief, it's that I don't want to play that Halo FPS instead of having one with the Chief. Just get us one of those alternating release year things that Call of Duty had.
     
  2. Ascend Hyperion

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    Good to see a thread of yours again, Preach.
     
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    Thanks that really makes me feel lo... Hey!!! Stop stroking my ego and give me some feedback!
     
  4. Ascend Hyperion

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    Haha I agree with most of the stuff you listed. I've just adopted an "Expect Nothing, Enjoy What I Get" mentality at this point.

    I think the art style is maybe the big one people dwell on that they underestimate. It's not like 343-Runner is a reskin of the old stuff. It's completely unique to the Prometheans. It could be a pretty big break in continuity to just not have it anymore like people say they want. With the Halo Ring in H6, we could see some regression maybe. Halo's are not limited to the classic style though. Raid on Apex 7 is proof of that.

    In terms of art changes, for me, one of the simplest and most satisfying changes we could get would be for gritty armor and darker textures to return. I'm tired of being a Bionicle.

    I've yet to encounter a weapon throughout Halo I haven't liked to some degree. Same for vehicles. I actually would like to have ALL weapons and vehicles available in the H6 sandbox.

    Spartan abilities are here to stay and that is 100% fine by me. I think they make the game a bit more interesting. They just need minor tweaks really. (If you ask me, the people you complain 24/7 about abilities are the people worst at using them)

    Finally, when it comes to Forge I like you list but I'm not going to be pushy. The Forge team is small and I'm sure they don't get the biggest piece of the pie even for all their work. So many ungrateful people moan and groan about H5 Forge when this Forge is, without an echo of a doubt, the best Forge so far. I'm sure we'll get even more in H6 but I won't be wiping my tears on the Forge Team's door bitching for more.

    Oh and one more thing...

    GET RID OF THE ****ING REQ PACK SYSTEM OH MY GOD LET ME EARN MY **** WITH CHALLENGES AND SAVING POINTS IF I WANTED TO WASTE MY TIME TO BUY THE SEEKER HELMET I WANT TO DO IT TO MY OWN ACCORD AND FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS HOLY PLEASE GO BACK TO THE HALO REACH UI IT IS THE BEST I DONT WANT TO SCROLL THROUGH 200+ RANDOMIZED ARMOR JUST TO FIND ONE THING LIKE ****
     
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    Do everything the opposite of what they've been doing.
     
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    "You ask for much Preacher001 son of Preacher000. Too much."
     
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    Bah! You've just had your expectations forced down too low.

    What's too much? I ask for a regression to a simpler Halo with an increase in a story telling method that has become far more common, and an upgrade of the Forge to a full fledged editor the likes of which has been available to FPS players since 1999.

    Come on, live a little. Tell me your hopes and dreams.
     
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    Oh yeah man I want a lot of what you said trust me. I just know we won't get it.

    I'm too bitter to make a big list sorry.

    Here's a few.

    Splitscreen.
    Playable elites.
    No Reqs.
    A real BTB playlist.
    No abilities.
    Better armor. No power rangers stuff.
    Better story.
    Better writing.
    Better characters.
    Better UI.
    Better theater.
    Better maps.
    Better aiming.
    Better sandbox.
    Better art. 343 Forerunner is digusting.
    Better music.
    All ****ing gametypes.

    I swear I forgot half of the **** I wanted a year ago.

    As for forge, no big things really. A great tool that needs tweaks here and there. I want what everyone wants, better lighting, less framerate, more of everything, canvases, objects, etc.

    Putting the sun where you want it would be so cool.

    And 4 season trees. I need those.
     
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    Is it wrong for me to want moments like these in Halo

    • Alistair: Ow.
    • Wynne: What? Stop fussing with it. You'll make it worse.
    • Alistair: It itches.
    • Wynne: Yes, it's healing. Don't touch it.
    • Alistair: But it's distracting. Can I rub it through the bandage? That's not really scratching.
    • Wynne: Alistair, if you open that wound up, I'm not going to heal it again. You can just treat it yourself. And if it festers, weeping bloody pus, and burns like the flames of Andraste's pyre, don't come to me. All I'm going to say is: "Alistair, didn't I tell you not to touch it?"
    • Alistair: It won't really fester, will it?
    • Wynne: Why don't you try scratching and see?
    • Alistair: I... uh, I guess it doesn't itch so much now.

    Still love hearing this stuff randomly in the middle of combat

     
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    The reason I expect so much from Forge is because forge is a large piece of the replayability pie. Not only for those who like to create but for those that like to kick ass. The way in which Forge maps have been received by the active matchmaking community this time around vs the past has been huge. I imagine a customs matchmaking list where maps are virtually indistinguishable from the dev playlist. (outside of them being infinitely better ;) )
     
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    The fact we don't even have a 4v4 forge playlist that rotates is beyond me.

    20 ****ing months. Some trashy girls have had 2 babies since release.
     
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