I don't think it's hard if you have some common sense and understand what worked to begin with, instead of just following trends
Kinda tired of this ****. Halo 3 Anniversary is NOT happening. 10+ people at 343 have already confirmed it's not happening, so there's literally no reason to believe otherwise.
This is a old thread tbf --- Double Post Merged, Apr 20, 2017 --- Dude you need to chill this is a dissucsion about a game.
@Tomcat7521, It is common knowledge that they hired people who hated Halo. I read some where that they played Call of Duty at the office while working on H5. I surmised they were playing it because they liked it. And if one argues that they were trying to make Halo like CoD, then clearly they liked CoD over Halo.
I thought they did that for halo 4? To make the "Ultimate" experience but even so there not gonna want to sign and work on a game they despise, thats like choosing to eat food you dont like.
"We had people who we hired who hated Halo because of 'X,'" says O'Connor. "But what that really meant was, 'I feel like this game could be awesome because of 'Y input' that I'm going to bring into it. I want to prove it, and I'm passionate about proving it.' So we ended up with a bunch of people who were genuinely passionate about the product. That is a huge advantage, and that helped in hiring and forming our team." They really did hire people who wanted something to seriously change about the classic Halo formula. They started to listen after Halo 4's launch. They got better, but not faster. Maybe wait another 3 years for them to return to classic Forerunner style.
Haha no probs bud --- Double Post Merged, Apr 20, 2017 --- I was a good idea i think, but it just didnt work for us classic players. Its hard for 343 to just go straight back to the classic gameplay and art becuase of the new audience. Thats not to say they couldnt just take best of both like hw2 did but i do agree with the forerunner art style.
Everyone you all need a bit more faith in 343 i know its hard but just give em another chance LNG has talked to the art directors and all and they have said that the Elites do look brutish and that the forerunners do have too many floaty bits. Halo will change into something good again but Nostalga is killing halo atm. Bungie had hate too i mean halo 2 was "The worst" when it came out and now look at it. The same goes for reach and odst. Seriuously just stop and think for a moment yes you probably havent made any memorys in campaign but you sure as hell have in halo 4 and 5s multiplayer! We never had theses REQS and there good whats better than a Scorpion that shoots lasers? Or whats better than a warthog that fires needle rounds?? 343 do care i just know it they just dont have the hang of it yet but they will get there. Instead of bitching among the community give valid reasons to 343 and not just "Get rid of sprint its **** like halo 5!" Tell them why you dont like it and how can it maybe be fixed! We know 343 are listening so there is no point in just gettinh arsy at 343 as there just going to ignore you. And for the love of god please accept other peoples opinions. You might not want sprint so what? Insulting them isnt resolving a issue. Thank you
Why should I have more "Faith" in 343? What reasons have 343 given for me to have some misguided faith in them? The pro team spent 2 ****ing years explaining why flinch was shitty ****ing mechanic, only to be ignored. 343 only removed it after the Backlash to flinch in the beta. Its wasn't some glitch. They CONTINUE to keep sprint despite all the evidence of it's detrimental effects on Halo. Not only that, they add MORE stupid ****ing abilities that seperate movement from shooting, which is what many of the biggest issues of sprint stems from. Why the **** would I care about some tank shooting lasers? Why the **** would I care about a needler firing warthog? Thats tacky, meaningless bullshit. We could be having 32vs32 CTF/Assualt/Territories w/e. We could have an armoury system better than reach. We could have a Firefight mode that builds on the strength of ODST and customization of Reach. We could have a studio who understands what was great about CE-Reach, what's bad about CE-Reach, and builds upon that. Instead we have Warzone, we have a glorified warzone mod made up of reused spartan ops objectives for Firefight. We have an RNG Microtransaction lootcrate aesthetic system with less options, and shittier designs than Reach. And we are stuck with a studio following trends as they are about to die that has failed to ship a well recieved Halo game in the 5/6 years they took over. Tom French and his team is the only part of that studio that I have faith in. To say I'm quite pissed about what we could have, as opposed to what we do, is an understatement. But I have every right too. Because they **** up the simplest of design choices and fail to understand Halo at it's core. I do not have any reason to have faith in that studio, not until they really buck up and learn what worked.
You cant blame 343 for micro transactions, thats microsoft and thier greed. Microsoft are the ones who dont care my friend. Im trying to explain something in the calmest manor i can i do see your points really i do but what is there you can do other than moan about your points? Im not saying 343 are perfect no developers are perfect but 343 is what we have so we might as well help them and not just scream in there faces. Okay so you dont care about the Reqs even though those and forge are the only things right now keeping halo 5 on the market. Your telling me you would rather not have different weapon vairients? That may well be your opinion but its what everyone else is enjoying. 343 gave us the cookie jar there by letting certain glitchs actualy become features of the game? Hell when do you see a gaming company not patch a harmless glitch?? You cant just **** all over 343 its not going to get you anywhere. They cant do everything Warzone is what 343 would have had to come up with to actualy include the micro transactions yes Warzone isnt the best thats because they executed ut poorly tbf warzone could of been some much better but there are just somethings we gotta deal with for now. Everyone is gonna make mistakes and the more 343 try the better Halo is going to get. See you say you dont have faith in them until they buck up well to help that do what i said give your valid reasons to them (with out all the swearing) not to me lol im just some guy on some website you cant just expect the next halo 3 out of know where Halo has to change otherwise people are going to get bored of the same stuff all the time i mean just look at COD from advanced warfare to now lol they used the same mehcanics over and over again (the exo suit) and that brought Cod down as well as some other stuff.
I wouldn't be so ****ing pissed if they bothered to ACTUALLY listen, not the selective hearing bull ****. Who the **** cares about the weapon and vehicles variants? The piss poor population of Halo 5? I really don't think a majority of people would take the req system over something like reaches armory. I really don't think the majority think Warzone was worth good BTB design, Invasion, one flag/one bomb maps, firefight or anything that has been removed since 343 took over. I'm venting at this point, but 343 have had the opportunity to listen to people who really understand and can help them build Halo, and they ignore them and do their own thing as often as they can get away with it. So until they actually show they can admit that continuing to shoehorn unneccesary crap into a perfectly good formula, I'll be pissed at them. I'll give them proper feedback when they are genuinely listening, not cherry picking the feedback that suits them.
Have faith in 343?? Lmao Are you serious? When they deliver a quality MCC product that people say doesn't crash and really does play like you remember, then we can discuss having faith in 343 again.
Are we using REQs to defend Halo 5 now? We had power weapons, but now you can have even more powerful power weapons! Have fun kids! p.s **** balance and **** design. The variants are so unnecessary. I looked a while back and realized we have 28 different warthogs... WHY? Couldn't this time have been spent on King of the Hill at least? 343 have a serious priority problem. I will admit, it is more likely Microsoft to blame for the micro transaction BS. If they were just a greedy company that would be at least understandable but half their decisions don't even make them money, they just lose fans through the most embarrassing levels of incompetence. They are a great example of what not to do in design and I have found them, while frustrating, to be very educational and have given me a fascinating new perspective on human psychology. I thought I had a decent idea about how people think but this... this is something else. To be fair to them, I wouldn't want to work under the shadow of a big corporation. Microsoft must give those guys hell. Regardless, they have shown next to no respect for the series they were meant to continue and it is a real shame. I think it shows just how awesome this Forge community is that I have the will to stick around. I stay because I have met some of the most talented designers through this series and have made many good friends that have made a genuine difference to the way I design and think. What I also love is seeing how the community as a whole continues to develop it's designs and philosophy. The most intelligent discussion I have ever been apart of has been through the guys in this community. I wish this community had a better game to pour its passion into.
L look idk what your deal is but you need to stop. Im not here to argue with someone alright? Im had enough with the crap can you just respect my opionions like i respect yours? We are legit aruging over a ****ing game man its pathetic --- Double Post Merged, Apr 21, 2017 --- Your a great "senior" member mate
I can respect different opinions if they're well thought out. Yours are just silly. We've had 3 dog **** Halo games in a row from 343; all of which could be considered the worst for different reasons. No, I do not think they will ever make a good Halo game nor do they have the technical skill to even do it. Anyone who thinks otherwise has their head shoved so far up their ass it's just become their head again.
But that's just it, isn't it? I give plenty of ****s about Halo. I care so much about this franchise I took the time to understand the core design behind the franchise, to better understand the level design and game design it needs and discuss why 343 are doing a bad job. I mean seriously, how can you expect blindly supporting 343 and defending blatantly shitty decisions just because they make Halo, and it's all we've got to make anything better? That's a flat out stupid notion. The only way to make anything happen is to force them to stop this crap. The way to do that is for the masses to tell them they are ****ing up and explain how, and then refuse to buy their **** games until change happens. And they are so ****ing stubborn, that might not work. I want Halo to be good, and I want Halo to succeed. But for that to Happen 343 have to stop listening to their preffered echo chambers of praise and start listening to the people who can genuinly help.
I want halo to be good too i actualy wanted to read that comment because now your not trying to **** all over me just like this over guy is now. --- Double Post Merged, Apr 21, 2017 --- You just controdicted your self.......