Forgehub and how to fix it's dwindling userbase and outdated UI

Discussion in 'Halo and Forge Discussion' started by BodeyBode, Mar 31, 2017.

  1. BodeyBode

    BodeyBode Ancient

    Messages:
    342
    Likes Received:
    557
    The solution is honestly quite simple, and there are just a few simple steps that should be considered.

    Whats wrong
    1. The shoutbox

    The shoutbox is a poorly implemented feature on the website. It's only visible on the main forum page which is primarily used to access the halo/forge/off topic forums. Therefore it does not receive much traffic and is a poor place to try to find people to test maps who may be online but are not actively on the one page it's viewable. In addition to this, on this same page is the link to the discord chat which brings people away from the website additionally lowering web traffic and page views

    How to fix it: include the shout box in more places on the website, ideally at the top of each of the three forums and anywhere else, include a small popup at the bottom right of the page that can be opened and minimized similar to the facebook chat feature. To remedy the discord issue, a potential solution would be to introduce a forgehub app that would act as the new discord and would be compatable with the shoutbox on the website.

    2. Youtube presense

    Forgehub has been around since halo 3 and has weak youtube game. Compare forgehubs subscriber count (9,603 at the time of this post) to channels such as forgelabs which have 93,000 subscribers at the time of this post.

    How to fix it: produce more content. This will allow forgehub to monetize it's videos while still keeping the website free of ads. Additional subscribers and viewers will also drive more people to the website. Videos are an easily consumed form of content and are more easily digestible by the general population than forgehubs current system of articles all in text form.

    3. Forgecast

    forgecast every monday gets posted and it's almost always the same content, goes largely ignored by the average user and takes up a large portion of the main page.

    How to fix it: A small banner on the main page should be more than sufficient linking to a page with all of the necessary information. Additionally, the name forgecast does not do a great job of illustrating to the user what it is they should expect by clicking the name, a simplified name along the lines of "lobbies and news" which while not having a pun for a name, does a much better of telling a new reader what to expect by clicking the link.

    4. likes

    Those that remember the MLG forums probably remember the rep system favorably. it acted as a way for users to moderate themselves with less action required by the mods. Many other popular forums use a similar feature with likes and dislikes, upvotes and downvotes. These systems allow the community to show by voting what kind of posts will or will not be tolerated while rewarding posts with substance.

    How to fix it: Add a rep/voting system. likes can still show as they are with dislikes being annonymous to prevent grudges from forming.


    These are not in any particular order, nor are they all of the things that could be improved.

    Post your own ideas below.
     
    AnonomissX, WAR, Kurismic and 11 others like this.
  2. MultiLockOn

    MultiLockOn Ancient
    Forge Critic Banned Senior Member

    Messages:
    4,815
    Likes Received:
    12,124
    I can get behind these
     
    AceOfSpades, Xandrith and BodeyBode like this.
  3. purely fat

    purely fat The Fattest Forger
    Forge Critic Senior Member

    Messages:
    3,010
    Likes Received:
    5,899
    As it stands it is too difficult to meme in shoutbox while browsing the website.
     
    xXSB101Xx, Chronmeister and Dunco like this.
  4. MultiLockOn

    MultiLockOn Ancient
    Forge Critic Banned Senior Member

    Messages:
    4,815
    Likes Received:
    12,124
    Also let Multi run a 2v2 contest
     
    Zombievillan, Xandrith and Dunco like this.
  5. a Chunk

    a Chunk Blockout Artist
    Forge Critic Wiki Contributor Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,670
    Likes Received:
    7,152
    Of course there are a lot of things that can be done to improve the site itself. There's only one way to fix the problem of a dwindling userbase, and I've been saying this since Halo 4... a GOOD HALO GAME.
     
    AnonomissX, WAR, Zombievillan and 7 others like this.
  6. purely fat

    purely fat The Fattest Forger
    Forge Critic Senior Member

    Messages:
    3,010
    Likes Received:
    5,899
    Or we revamp this community to promote another title.
     
  7. MultiLockOn

    MultiLockOn Ancient
    Forge Critic Banned Senior Member

    Messages:
    4,815
    Likes Received:
    12,124
    You mean you've been saying it since Reach......right
     
  8. purely fat

    purely fat The Fattest Forger
    Forge Critic Senior Member

    Messages:
    3,010
    Likes Received:
    5,899
    except there was actually a fairly strong customs community in reach.
     
    AnonomissX, AceOfSpades and Toastman like this.
  9. Goat

    Goat Rock Paper Scissors Scrap
    Forge Critic Senior Member

    Messages:
    4,570
    Likes Received:
    14,945
    Make ForgeHub great again!

    [​IMG]
     
  10. purely fat

    purely fat The Fattest Forger
    Forge Critic Senior Member

    Messages:
    3,010
    Likes Received:
    5,899
    DON'T WAIT!!
    KILL KILL KILL!
     
    AnonomissX and Goat like this.
  11. BodeyBode

    BodeyBode Ancient

    Messages:
    342
    Likes Received:
    557

    You've gotta work with what you've got. A halo title with halo3 mechanics and halo5 forge would definitely be great for the community but that's not going to happen. Even then, forgehub feels so outdated that even if more people play the game, it's not going to gain a large following


    The fact that a forge channel such as forge labs can get almost 100k subscribers shows that there's still people who are playing the game and consuming content for it.

    forgehub is in competition with halowaypoint, reddit, beyond and other forge/halo forums for users, and forgelabs (and other youtube channels) for viewers. As it is now, forgehub is going to have limited growth and suffer from more users leaving than joining.
     
    Zombievillan likes this.
  12. a Chunk

    a Chunk Blockout Artist
    Forge Critic Wiki Contributor Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,670
    Likes Received:
    7,152
    No, it's been true since Halo Reach, but I've only been saying it since Halo 4.

    I'm not suggesting ignoring the state of the site. As I said, there ARE a lot of things that can be done to improve the site. There absolutely should be an effort put forth to make improvements.
     
    BodeyBode and MultiLockOn like this.
  13. Buddy Jumps

    Buddy Jumps Jumpmaster
    Senior Member

    Messages:
    686
    Likes Received:
    1,761
    Don't know why they're keeping it a secret, but this website is being overhauled right now as far as I know.
     
  14. Ryouji Gunblade

    Ryouji Gunblade Legendary

    Messages:
    836
    Likes Received:
    1,269
    I still want to know who likes my stuff though.
     
    Xandrith likes this.
  15. MultiLockOn

    MultiLockOn Ancient
    Forge Critic Banned Senior Member

    Messages:
    4,815
    Likes Received:
    12,124
    Beyond shows who upvotes and downvotes everything
     
    a Chunk likes this.
  16. Dunco

    Dunco Troll Whisperer
    Forge Critic

    Messages:
    2,068
    Likes Received:
    7,452
    I'd downvote the **** outa something's around here
     
    MultiLockOn likes this.
  17. MrDeliciousman9

    MrDeliciousman9 Legendary
    Senior Member

    Messages:
    296
    Likes Received:
    419
    If cesspool could get up votes then everyone would see how amazing of a map it truly is.
     
  18. SIR IRON WOLF

    SIR IRON WOLF A Floating Lightbulb
    Staff Member Administrator Forge Critic Senior Member

    Messages:
    243
    Likes Received:
    718
    Well the only reason Forge-cast generally stays the same is because nothing really changes, and actually in the recent months it has gotten more traffic. i wish i could add more content in there but since it is based mainly off of the community and what articles we have lined up there isn't much to do. It basically is meant to be a weekly calendar anyways. Also the name is staying cause puns are great, even though it takes a lot to come up with good ones and with not much content lately it is hard to sprinkle some in there.

    Also im not sure if you realize but the reason it takes up a large portion of the main page is because it is an article like all the others, so it is going to follow the same rules as all the others. A small banner isn't going to draw really anymore attention, but there is some plans in place, Forge-cast isn't a permanent thing but is staying how it is because there are people who value it like other websites and the testing lobbies. Which is what the audience is for it anyways. The picture was meant to convey the news pun but with the changing style in the articles it was dropped and decided to just stick with plain pictures (not my choice).

    Still your suggestions do not go un-noted regarding everything you listed for the forge-cast and other stuff.
     
    #18 SIR IRON WOLF, Mar 31, 2017
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2017
    Juanjo2D and BodeyBode like this.
  19. AceOfSpades

    AceOfSpades Talented
    Forge Critic Senior Member

    Messages:
    3,552
    Likes Received:
    2,842
    Yeah I never use the shoutbox because I don't want to have to stay on a stagnant page just to participate. If it could somehow be implemented similarly to chats on Facebook, where the tab for the chat is always there, can be viewed or minimized no matter which page of the site you're browsing, I think that'd be ideal.

    Similarly, if user to user (to user?l private chats are possible on a forum, that could be interesting. Might let unwanted discussions like the alleged inappropriate WAYWO discussions of late stay in a chat between the users involved. Idk, might pull traffic away from the publicly-viewed forums though.
     
  20. SIR IRON WOLF

    SIR IRON WOLF A Floating Lightbulb
    Staff Member Administrator Forge Critic Senior Member

    Messages:
    243
    Likes Received:
    718
    We have private chats, they are just a bit annoying to find, clicking on someones name in a thread brings up a little card and on it it says "Start a Conversation"
     

Share This Page