I didn't say Tyrant forged that, I said that was the point of progress the map was at when he left. The concept and the base layout is his design. You made refinements and revisions. I never had anything against you, Xandrith. I just thought it was low of you to act like Tyrant isn't the reason why this map that you're rightfully proud of exists. He did do you a favor. I see the differences. I also see the commonalities. It was a co-'forge', but it was his design. Tyrant and I co-built a map on Murder Miners. Obesity is the name. He had the design sketched, and I helped him create it and find a texture palette for it. During building the map, he had to make some changes, and I was a part of that. It's still his design. Even if I changed the geometry in every room, it would still be his concept I'm working from. And I find it crazy that you don't see how it's the same concept as Damnation.
You're right, I did make refinements and major revisions after he left, but guess what? Probably half of what he left... was MY design. Do you really believe that while we were both working on it, he just told me what to build and I complied? Now you're just making things up. On another note, I get what you're saying about Obesity, but that's not what happened here. Like I've already stated, the only two things that are the same on Storm Peaks are the two redundant highways spanning the towers, and the towers themselves. Hell, even the layout of the towers are different now. That's a helluva lot different from the scenario that you describe, but I think you already knew that.
Most of the best maps in this game either started as a co forge or received heavy design input from one or more Forger's later on. This discussion looks really disingenuous. --- Double Post Merged, Mar 28, 2017 --- It is though. There are two asymmetric sides with a high bridge (Sniper), a low portion behind it (Shotgun), and a dead zone in front of it (OS). The high bridge is weighted where 40% of the map is behind it and 60% is in front of it not unlike Damnation. Whether it was intentional or not doesn't matter, but it's not really relevant to begin with. It doesn't play anything like Damnation. I feel like we are at the point where we just want to **** on good maps because nothing else is out there.
I haven't even had time to credit Purely in this whole thing. Yes, Purely is one of the many reasons that Storm Peaks exists. His contributions were huge, but even bigger ones were made by the collective testers and fellow forgers. Do those people deserve credit for my map? No, but they deserve recognition. --- Double Post Merged, Mar 28, 2017 --- Yeah, I can see that. I was just assuming that xzamples was commenting on how the map plays more than the shape, since he always seems to be babbling on about that sort of ****. If you look at Storm Peaks and assume that it plays like dammy... then your opinions no longer mean anything to me.
That moment when you look at your latest alerts and see a wall of alerts for WAYWO and realize aint nobody working on ****.
@Xandrith I was talking about the geometry, not the gameplay. @A 3 Legged Goat I'm not shitting on Storm Peaks. I haven't said anything bad about it.
This was the last thing I worked on: For anyone who likes to design blocky maps that transition well to graph paper, I recommend trying this app: http://draftpaper-app.com
You should use the color feature to differentiate the levels if you have the full version. Map looks nice from what I can tell though.
I've started the guts of the Semi-Auto Shotgun! I still need to do pretty much everything, but expect a nearly finished model tomorrow. I don't want to start a new thread. Edit: No, @MultiLockOn. This isn't the R-870 MCS.
Working on a couple of things at the moment. Mostly behind the scenes stuff since I don't have a lot of freetime. I'm...... Just putting the final touches onto a map with @JA50N 0 Figuring out details on a collaboration with @WeedCough, Potentially a couple other forgers. Working on some Reflex maps and and sending some design concepts to be implemented into Diabotical by promeus. (pictures taken from update stream) and So many pictures......
The tele bridge was my idea. I literally remember explaining that tele to you and how it would come from the cathedral. The insides of those building still function the same with only slight difference in routes on the right side. You built what I told you to build. You didn't have any vision for the map. That is why you just built another spiraling tower. Xandrith I was going to be nice to you but you made this public. I really wish max would have dropped it, but what ever. The two towers, lower elbow and the general flow of the map didn't change at all. At that point in the map everything was my ideas and why we stopped working together partially because you wanted to do some ass aesthetics and we had different ideas on how it should be scaled. I gave you the map yes. That is what I apologized for. I didn't apologize for the template of the design being mine. I told Max that you did all that forging when I sent him the picture. You are acting like everything from the point I asked you to co-forge the map with me is your idea. Which is not true. You have been hanging out with Multi too much man. You are starting to believe your own bullshit. I expect you to say that back to me, but I don't care let's drop this entire thing. We all know you can't make anything on your own just like the Multi and Given. --- Double Post Merged, Mar 29, 2017 --- Well, I wouldn't expect you to believe it to be 100% your map. I mean salty has taken one of my designs and is doing a lot of Xandrith did with storm peaks template.