#Pizzagate

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Soldat Du Christ, Nov 29, 2016.

  1. AlexVan123

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    Well, ****... this turned into a fight..
     
  2. SecretSchnitzel

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    It's not a fight. It's a conspiracy that's part of a witch hunt. It doesn't belong here and I have zero interest in continuing the discussion with an ignoramus.
     
  3. Buddy Jumps

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    After overthinking this whole thing, I changed my mind. My first reply was my first impression without doing research myself, which is pretty stupid, I know.

    Pizzagate could be true or false. There is just not enough evidence. Pedophilia rings definitely exist on this planet, however, for once, those Podesta emails prove quite nothing and actually could have been altered by the russian hacker group Fancy Bear. All the conspiracy theorists don't even know, which emails are altered and which are not, which makes this part of the theory not valuable enough. On Wikipedia you can find everything gathered so far concerning the Podesta emails, with actual evidence.

    In regards of the Instagram pictures and such, well, the summary of all the pictures (from jimmycomet and his associated accounts) is indeed pretty weird. However it doesn't make sense that a person with pedophilia would show his desease so openly. Just imagine yourself being a pedo, would you go out in the "public" telling obvious hints of you loving childs? I don't think so. So, you see the same kid in some pictures; is it a drugged kid used for rape or could it be his daughter? Same goes with other pictures. They simply are not unmistakeable. Period.

    The type of symbols could be accidentally or intentionally, do you know for sure?

    At first I blindly agreed with pizzagate. Now I don't agree with most of it anymore. Sure, there's a concentrated pile of weirdness, but nobody can prove anything with absolute and unquestionable evidence. Therefore it looks more like a conspiracy driven by political interests than an actual exposure of a criminal network. If it didn't get so political and appear at that exact time of the election, it could have been more credible, I guess.

    Podesta Emails:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Podesta_emails

    Comet Ping Pong:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comet_Ping_Pong

    Two reputable websites with their opinion:
    http://www.snopes.com/pizzagate-conspiracy/
    https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-11-23/a-fake-pizzagate-conspiracy-for-our-fevered-age
     
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  4. Soldat Du Christ

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    This is a public forum and we have a right to free speech, you also have the ability to not engage in this conversation if it doesn't suite your interest. By your logic waywo should be locked as well. It's an "off topic" sub category of the website, why do you always have to get so emotional
     
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  5. SecretSchnitzel

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    WAYWO is a special thread exempt from common rules. The WAYWO has a long storied past and no newbies will ever get to change how it's governed.
     
  6. Soldat Du Christ

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    Fair enough. I declair soveriegnty over this thread, so stop abusing your powers to get what you want around here
     
  7. SecretSchnitzel

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    What powers? I requested a moderator actually do some moderating?

    This is an outrageous thread. It's beyond ****ing retarded.
     
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  8. Soldat Du Christ

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    I realy wish i have it in me to engage with you in-depth on this case. I'm afraid as always i get burnt out repeating the same infirmation. I agree that at a certain point you have take a leap of faith. It's not emperical evidence by any means.

    It all come down to your epistemology. How do you know what you know? From my world view, humans are capable of rational thought. Able to piece together peices of evidence to form a REASONABLE, and PROBABLE conclution.

    If you are an empericist, than you only trust repeatable, testable, and observable evidences. If this is your methodology of truth seeking, than you have alot more problems to worry about than a conspericy. How could even go about empericaly testing the laws of logic exist? The law of non contradiction, the law of sufficiant reason, etc. These are all philosophical principles that don't exist materialy.

    To say only science has the truth, is a philosophical statement, not a scientific one.
     
  9. AlexVan123

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    I'm not taking sides here, but, dude, you do NOT have control of whether this thread gets locked or not. You don't have the power to do that.
     
  10. a Chunk

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    Intentionally creating a confrontation isn't exactly helping things either. There's nothing wrong with you disagreeing with it, but calling someone an ignoramus appears to me like an obvious attempt to get the thread locked.
     
  11. SecretSchnitzel

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    Obviously. Duh.

    I'm asking that you lock it. I'm calling attention to it. If you don't, then clearly I'm in the wrong. Jackass.
     
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  12. Soldat Du Christ

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    I need to learn to stop taking the bait, i can become equaly as intense when provoked. Oh well...
     
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  13. AlexVan123

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    Wasn't messaging you. I quoted Soldat.
     
  14. Overdoziz

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    Schnitzel, what a trooper.
     
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    If this thread gets locked I am legit never coming back to this site. I haven't looked into #pizzagate myself but the OP has not been out of line and deserves to be able to post his thoughts in the OFF TOPIC section.
     
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  17. SIR IRON WOLF

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    This thread doesn't break any of the rules for the site and is in the off topic forum like it should be. If the discussion remains on topic then their won't be a problem. If someone disagrees with this topic and the information that is provided then they can either ignore it or engage in the discussion like Buddy Jumps did and discuss why they might not or don't believe it.

    I'm someone who is against censorship for something that doesn't break the rules and as long as it isn't causing a major disturbance in the site in a negative fashion or is against a large part of the community.
     
  18. SecretSchnitzel

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    Whatever... It's still part of a witch hunt though. It's a stupid conspiracy that was fabricated by a bunch of trolls on 4chan to further discredit Clinton. But, whatever. If idiots want to be idiots and believe this crock of absolute utter bullshit, go right ahead.
     
  19. SIR IRON WOLF

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    If you want to join in the discussion in a respectable manner and disprove this conspiracy then go ahead, it is not a witch hunt when the OP was presented in a way that gave information for people to start their own investigation. The thread was going along nicely into discussions about the possibility of this conspiracy and others like it and there was no mob starting raising pitchforks. I don't really have an opinion on this conspiracy, if it is true for some of the people involved then that is terrible and they should be tried, if not then this will just blow over like everything else.
     
  20. Zombievillan

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    I deem this thread valid. As an old member here your waywo point is not valid Schnitz. If it were we could just carry this conversation on in the waywo if you like, go ahead and delete this thread.

    This is some seriously evil stuff though. Horrible but I feel there is some very sinister things going on that we have no knowledge of nor could we I'm sure whether these claims are true or not. There are just too many coincidences throughout our governments history with ties to "conspiracies" like the symbolisms, free masons, secret government societies & such. Granted I have not researched enough to draw any real conclusions I have read & watched many videos with points that are just too much to ignore.

    The horrible things that could be happening that we just pass off as impossible because they are too far fetched or crazy is chilling. My conscious just won't let me dismiss it.
     
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