I've already apologized to everyone that I've offended, so I would now like to contribute to the waywo part of this thread. http://www.forgehub.com/threads/wip-storm-peaks.153268/page-4 play it please
That's good to hear man! I've been creeping this map for a while. Very cool. I like how the routes are extremely segmented and force more player choice to commit to a given path. The vertically is interesting too. I'm excited to test this one out!
Indirectly calling people out isn't really avoiding drama. The Senior members aren't obligated to help you or anyone else. Many of them learned on their own through experience, and you can do the same. It's unfortunate that you had that experience. If you seek the opinion of an individual, it might be best just to contact them. In my experience, one on one feedback is more helpful than group feedback.
Like I said, I disagree with @Xandrith post about remakes. However, I can't believe him stating his opinion that remakes shouldn't receive as much attention has warranted 4 pages of discussion. Are you guys ****ing kidding me. You have literally bashed his opinion until he apologized for it several times. All he said was remakes don't deserve the attention they get. You guys are really that upset about his opinion on a matter so small? Lmao what the ****... This is what is wrong with our society. You can't say **** around anyone because people are offended by everything in 2016. YOU ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE YOUR OWN OPINIONS THIS IS NOT THE YEAR 1150. I'm not saying people should go around bashing each other, but what you guys are saying is that if you don't like remakes popularity then you should keep your mouth shut about it because your opinion makes you a douchebag. We are not in North Korea. @Mynx I'm glad that you are aware of being sensitive at the moment. I hope everything is alright in your personal life. You kept saying at this time or at this point you can't handle your emotions. So I hope that means everything is going good outside of forge. What I recommend is that you ignore any negative opinions surrounding remakes and focus on the positive. I've seen around 20 people praise your remakes and only about 2 dislike them. I'd say that's a good ratio. Everyone has different opinions about forge, that is what makes it so great, there is no right or wrong answer. People have different preferences to what they do and don't like. Sometimes you should take people's opinions to heart and other times with a grain of salt. I recommend you take the 2nd option.
Oh boooo fricken hoooo! "Schnitzel was mean to me in the past, so I don't want to post maps anymore". Get over it Green. I don't really post feedback on maps these days. Aside from the shoutbox, I'm not even active here. You've got nothing to fear from me... at least when it comes to your maps. I'll be too busy **** posting you about how miserably Trump lost to Clinton!
That's what happens when most of your info is on the internet man. People were always like that, social media just sucks everyone into everyone's problems. That's why you don't start a problem in the first place. And What's the point in just saying you hate remakes??? Would it be like your daily post? That's the world we live in. One were people speak their mind when all their doing is string up trouble
Oh yes, we should all hold hands and sing kumbaya together. No one should ever say anything that could hurt another person's precious feelings. ****, let's make that a rule here. No mean words. Ever. Let's make ForgeHub a place where only blind praise is accepted. That'd be ****ing awesome!
Or maybe feedback bud. I'm pretty sure you hated it when people didn't like your reimaginations of classic halo maps. So you know how it feels. Don't be an ass.
This is worth losing an hour to, so here it goes. @Sn1p3r C did a great job with his post, but I feel I have a little more to add. Because this really is a humanity issue. All of this is of course my opinion, but I do hope that other people think more about how they can help the community mature in how everyone interacts. Someone being really bad at taking criticism is not a justification for not learning tact. Both need to happen at the same time. The ability to take criticism is on one side of the boat, while the ability to give respectful, tactful, constructive, but honest criticism sits on the other side. If either one lacks the boat is tipped. That includes you addressing that you feel Mynx needs to take criticism better... cuz this quote does not fit all of "respectful, tactful, constructive, but honest criticism". Yeah but that isn't an excuse to let it continue to be so. That statement should not just be an acknowledgement it should be a push towards actions that are less cruel, not a justification for not giving "respectful, tactful, constructive, but honest criticism". The world doesn't have to be cruel, and we do have the ability to change that in small pockets. Small pockets can be welcoming and constructive and respectful, and the moment adjacent small pockets that are in the same bigger pocket realize "it works on a lower level, why aren't we enforcing the same expectation on a larger level" the moment that the world begins to shift. Change starts with the base and works its way up. The same way that new federal legislation is successful by being decided and successful at the state level first. Don't be afraid to be sensitive about it. Do be afraid of posting before truly emotionally processing the statement. Something that can really help the community as a whole for advice if you get angry about a post, don't respond right away. Sleep on it first. Your subconscious will have the opportunity to process it and rationalize it enough that you can respond in a healthier manner that will promote growth instead of barriers. Everyone has the right to be sensitive. Everyone should be able to say "I respect your opinion, but what you said did hurt my feelings." Because everyone deserves to have their opinion respected (no matter how they put it out), but everyone also deserves to speak up when something doesn't feel right. When you respond in that way, people will be more open to saying something along the lines of "My bad" and may actually second guess before the respond in the same way next time. @Sn1p3r C hit this pretty spot on. Just cuz you have the technical right to offend people, does not mean that it is the healthiest course of action. When someone feels attacked it is natural to attack back. Sure they can do things like I suggested above, but it isn't just their responsibility to encourage a healthier conversation. We are all allowed to have an opinion, and it is important that everyone respect the opinions of other. There is nothing wrong with being upset when an opinion doesn't match your own. That is natural and saying it is not ok to feel upset about that encourages a cold world. Instead of bashing on someone who feels upset, it is important to work towards a situation where their feelings matter and are acknowledged and steps are taken to mitigate feelings being hurt earlier on. If someone has their feelings hurt by a statement, it is fair to assume that someone else would have their feelings hurt in a similar situation. Instead of shutting out the ability to have feelings about a matter, we should be finding ways where we use that to define how we want our community to act. And the truth is that most of the posts have a problem with HOW the opinion was given, not what the opinion was. What I don't think most people have come to realize is that every single person here (including @Xandrith , @SecretSchnitzel , and others seen as the "causes" of problems) actually wants things to be better in their own way and their intentions aren't ill will. Their way of doing it may be different than yours. They both have feelings as well, and sometimes we make a mistake when we make a post and we are pushed to justify over admit. Feelings are seen as a whiny boo boo thing, but honestly acknowledging feelings is what makes the best communities the best. Xandrith and SS are both extremely talented individuals that also have emotions *gasp*. Even if what they say hurts ours, sometimes it helps to realize that it doesn't help to attempt to hurt theirs back. The best way to be positive and successful is to take a breather and keep a cool head. Having felt like a target of @Psychoduck it was very hard for me to not attack back. But by not participating or by not returning attacks, eventually things got better. I still have a huge respect for the amount of work Duck puts into the community. And I totally get certain opinions that were formed about me. But by staying back and not returning attacks things got better for both sides. Tyler and I also have a much better relationship as well. He's really not that bad of a guy folks. I have him on Facebook. You have feelings too man. It is ok to have them. But blind praise is stupid, it is about learning to be tactful respectful constructive AND honest.
Yeah, I didn't like it, and I still don't like it, but what do feelings have to do with any of it? Doesn't change that people don't like it, so what am I to do but deal with it?
Yeah.... That's a little difficult for me. See, I have a bit of a difficulty understanding people on an emotional level, and the things I say [usually] don't register to me as something "mean". Even in real life I'll say things that I think are perfectly fine, then have to pause and say, "****, sorry, that was rude of me wasn't it" after I realize that's not something normal people would consider acceptable. But at the same time, some people need that shock to wake them up. As a whole, society [at least American society] has become excessively fake and insincere. Too many people are concerned about the feelings of others, or at least pretending to be, that they refuse to speak plainly. Everyone is a precious little butterfly and should feel like they're special, and I ****ing hate that mentality. --- Double Post Merged, Aug 13, 2016 --- I think I'm blunt, but I know I'm actually an asshole.
Here's a question, is it better to bash someone or help them succeed, in any means possible? I know some of you express tough love, but being an ass towards someone or their opinions, is that really the right way? Personal story that happened last night. I was spending some time at the community pool with my wife and kids, when I saw this dude run up the top of this Pool Gym (that led to the top of the slides), fully clothed (he wasn't swimming), stopped my oldest from going down the slide. Out of ear shot I couldn't understand what he said to my son. I got up and approached him and asked him what was going on? Some of you know that I am usually the non-confrontational type, but this dude had no right touching him and because he literally has scared my son by raising his voice at him. This guy gets all puffed up with me saying his son, said "that your son pushed mine! And I told him...", I stopped him right in his tracks and told him to calm down and there was no need to get all upset at a bunch kids that are less than 10 years old. Told him, how about you stay closer and actually saw what happened, there were several boys pushing and shoving down the slide, to include yours I am sure. He didn't reply and left. I was still pissed. My son was truly upset, I got down on his level and told him some things that I am sure he will remember for a long time. That there are really mean people in this world and sometimes you just have acknowledge them for you they are and approach them in a different way. If I was to have gotten all pissed at him, **** probably would have escalated and that wasn't the right thing. So I hugged him and told him that he definitely learned some hard lessons today and being safe on the waterslides wasn't the one I was talking about. Sorry for the wall of text, but in relation to what's going, I would rather this community support one another, whether it's circlejerking, tough criticisms, or just plain encouragement. Everyone has their right to their OPINION, no one is going to stop that. Just be mindful, not everyone has the same chemical make up as you. Everyone has different ways of handling things, it's your job to actually know how to approach them correctly or know how to defuse a situation. All of us are artists here and the hardest thing we have to overcome is criticism. To me that's tougher than making a remake or an original design. With that, keep it clean. <Sorry if there is grammar issues, I hastily typed that.>