Leroy Jenklns submitted a new map: Snow Snare - I present to you my remake of Sand Trap from Halo 3! Read more about this map...
THIS MAP IS NOT STOLEN. IT IS NOT COPIED. Leroy Jahnkens started forging this map the minute forge was released in December. He was about half way through when it became known the WyvernZu was working on one. Instead of quitting, he finished it. Even the casual observer will see stark differences between the two maps. Download it and see for yourself. I dare say Leroy's version is better. You decide. Edit: Thanks to WyvernZu for going out of your way to make up for the accusations. There's no hard feelings. Looking forward to seeing more of your work. GREAT job on the 1:1 version.
Uhh, wait what. Are you serious? You just copied my map... *Edit* I took a closer look at it and I understand now that this map is fundamentally different. I'm really sorry for jumping the gun on this one.
Now before everyone gets their pants in a wad, let me explain a few things. No this map is not stolen, yes it is very similar to yours. Leroy had been planning on building this map for ages and once we started work on it, we saw a few videos on YouTube saying you were working on one. We were pretty sad since a well known forger was going to likely overshadow our work, but we pressed on anyway. Sandtrap remakes are bound to look similar, but you can't just go accusing everyone who makes another remake for copying yours. Yours looks great. So does Leroy's. You'll find on close examination they are quite different.
Im sorry, It must been the timing since both maps was done...at the same time. haha and both looked, well very alike.
My initial reaction was that this was stolen. Then I realized it was on a completely different canvas. Glacier is clearly in the background, whereas Wyvern's was on Parallax. With this said, this is a damn good remake. The fact that people thought you copied a 1:1 existing remake says something; nice work man. I do like the change in environment, suits the map nicely in my opinion.
I'm glad this got sorted out. I'm going to hide some of the posts since they are clearly unfounded and untrue accusations. We take the stealing of maps very seriously around here. I know that everyone had good intentions - trying to protect the work of a fellow forger. I also think it's very important that we as a community avoid throwing out accusations without at the very least downloading the map in question and providing some evidence that it's actually stolen. Sorry your thread has been derailed. Hopefully the conversation from this point forward can focus on THIS map, which looks quite good.
I love the idea of this map being snowy. Snow looks so good for a map. I'll be checking this out sometime when I'm home. EDIT: Absolutely amazing! I don't think I have a single bad thing to say. This map is faithful to the original and is absolutely beautiful.
First off, I just want to say there are no hard feelings. And I'd like to thank you for looking a little deeper into the map. After checking out your remake, I'll be the first to admit that there are indeed some striking similarities. I believe that's bound to happen when remaking the same map. I also totally understand your concerns about map stealing. It's unfortunate that map theft has become a problem. Thanks for cleaning up the thread. I didn't see the posts, but I'm glad this seems to have been resolved. And I'm glad you liked the map! Also, shout out to my man Se7enThunders, once again, for hopping on to help resolve the issue.
I've always said it would be a smart idea to bring back Sandtrap with black structures and snowy terrain. It is a bit of a shame the release dates of the two got so intertwined but good work non the less!