Absolutely love the design layout for this map, very aesthetically pleasing. but there are a few issues I encountered while running both dubs and 1v1's. First and foremost, unfortunately you lose a few frames in numerous places around the map. Specifically around the outer sides of the map and even more specifically walking along the entire catwalk you'll lose frames if you are looking in any direction of the map. It's not a significant drop in frames but it is slightly annoying. The spawns are also incredibly predictable and I was pretty much forcing my opponents to spawn where I wanted almost 85% of the time, likewise in doubles. Unfortunately though, with the layout of the map, there isn't much you can do to vary the spawning. Lastly there were a few pieces that you used that just didn't look right or seemed unfinished. Like the grass planes as walls were weird. Also the lift behind the catwalk by the sniper you can jump on that grass plane outside the map where there is only a soft kill and see the underside of an UNSC lift sticking out from a wall. it's just feels ugly or lazily done compared with the rest of the map. All these are just small tiny things that kinda of bugged me. There aren't really any major flaws maybe the spawning but, overall I enjoyed playing this map. Very creative.
Dude all your criticisms are totally spot on, and I agree with you. The frame rate was definitely a stickler here. Halfway through the map's construction I started to notice some drops here and there; that was my warning sign. I finished the map in the manner that I wanted it too look, and the frame rate was hitting heavy just about anywhere you looked. The issues you have with the grass planes and frame rate in this case, go hand in hand. Believe it or not, the map was practically enclosed at one point! Big 'ol metal walls towering upwards..as you can imagine, there wasn't much I could do but get rid of them. The grass planes as walls and flooring are there as a compromise with the frame rate. If it were up to me, the map would be a big enclosed metal dome! So yeah, I totally feel you on how it looks lazy, I wish there was more I could do there. But even aside from frame rate, placing a few more objects on the map will push past the threshold for 2v2 and will start kicking players. How it is now, is just my way of getting the map to work without looking completely atrocious. Overall though, I'm happy with the playability and I've never really found the current state of framerate on the map offputting or unplayable by any means..but then again, I am the author As for the spawning, I'll have to take your word for it. It was kinda tricky to get safe spawning on the map, and if I'm gonna be honest I'm actually kinda happy with how the spawning turned out! But if you feel it's too predictable I'll take your word for it. Thanks again for the feedback, you seem pretty knowledgeable. I appreciate your kind words as well
Well like I said, I don't believe any of these are a major deal. It's no where near unplayable. I enjoyed the gameplay quite a bit, it's just unfortunate that MCC won't allow forgers to complete their maps without producing some complications. but that's forge for ya. kudos for getting what you did and keeping the creativity of the map in tact.
Wow another very visually pleasing map! Love the all metal look to it! How come this is your last MCC map?
Unique design and a unique pallet. I agree with Spaied, it's definitely a looker. You should keep forging, because I'd love to see what else you can do.
This map plays so different from all the maps being cranked out lately. It isn't you're average forge map, and with that being said, well done. It is a blast to 1v1 on here. But I have to say, if you are one of those hyper-competitive MLG - Halo can only be played one way - kinda guys, don't bother with this map. It is super original, and plays super original. Mawlty you make me so proud :3 Also your last picture has me in stitches
You guys love each other so much. ****ing awesome. I honestly don't think this would scare mlg kids away. The map is not confusing and is fairly open when you get to the top. My only thing I wonder about because I have not played the map is if the top(the really high walkway) is used because it seems like it would be difficult to get there due to the length of the ramps and how open they are going there. It looks like if you were to try and push that way you would be forced drop down a good amount of the time because the other players ability to get and angle on those ramps from multiple positions throughout the map. Now it isn't bad thing because you don't want to add cover so it can be abused, but if one of routes up top was quicker I think it could benefit flow. Spawning is just bad and predictable in this game anyways.
Yeah the difficulty up top is just part of the "low escapability" theory I explained in the spoiler in the map thread. High exposure is really the best way to counter a high power position (in this map at least ) I think, but there's the protrusion in the center of the high catwalk that warrants you some cover from the other side. Thank you for your comments though. I highly recommend you play a few games on it
Finally got a game on here. Rome nailed it with his feedback, so I won't repeat those points. I like the design. On the other hand, I feel like it would work better in a different game. The scaling and openness of it lends itself better to a utility weapon with longer range, a game with faster movement options, or both. There were times where battles took place with one player on the upper camo walkway and another player on one of the Sniper catwalks where both players, going toe to toe, almost emptied an entire BR clip before one came out on top. While we aren't pro's by any means, this is mostly due the fact that these battles happen outside of the BR's optimal range. I'd love to play this map on a Halo CE/Halo 5 hybrid. And yeah, I noticed that thing that a bunch of you have been hinting at. It's the kind of thing that's funny amongst friends, but just feels like an unnecessary jab in this context, and I almost don't even want to acknowledge it because it has nothing to do with the map.
I TOTALLY agree with you! I must've said so many times while building the map "this would be so much better with a CE pistol", I think kurismic even joked about making a gametype that replicated Unreal Tournament settings to play with the map. Glad to see were on the same page if there's anything in particular you didn't like or maybe something more general about the map I'd love for you to leave a review... Even if it's not a perfect score You let me know if FH ever decides to have a 2v2 tourney I'll throw this map in the submission
I thought the map was (insert chunks entire post). Im sure it is better with 4 players, but no matter the player count you should really look into fixing the frame rate issues. Maybe you could try replacing the 2x2 steep ramps with other objects? Oh yeah and #Sqwall-E
There's a lot of items I could flip around to get the frame rate to a good place. Deleting the metal floor and just having a grass plane would pretty much do it on it's own. But the beauty of the map wouldn't be there. I chose to bring the map to where it is now just so I could show off my artistic talent while still having it playable. Of course if it were in the scenario of tournament or competitive play obviously I'd strip it down in the matter of a few seconds, but it's not really necessary in the current context. But I'm glad you gave the map a shot try it out in dubs, I'm sure you'll like it!
It's in the graphics of the map post, not on the map itself. I'll leave it to MultiLockOn to reveal if he wishes to do so.