What Are You Working On?

Discussion in 'Halo and Forge Discussion' started by ForgeHub, Jul 12, 2013.

  1. purely fat

    purely fat The Fattest Forger
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    For campaign you have to make sure you actually set the timing or scoring because it won't work even if says its on when you start. Then just complete it. You have to hit the par I believe as well.

    Also, am I the only one that despises battle/beaver creek/canyon/ rubbbbbble.
     
  2. SecretSchnitzel

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    He gets big points for making an aesthetically stunning map.... And none for it being actually playable. This map will have unacceptable frame drops, quote me on it.
     
  3. Stevo

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    That blows chunks.....
     
  4. Goat

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    ya it'll be like waling in slow motion. gotta love how hyped up the terrain stuff was, only for it to be unusuable thanks to the framerate drops.
     
  5. a Chunk

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    To be honest, the blatant avoidance of the question frustrates me even more than the (lack of) file sharing system itself. It gives off the impression that they don't really even care.
     
  6. Stevo

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    Genuinely, I don't think they do - but I also don't blame them.

    It's like they've put all the effort into getting us someone else's games to play while they make their own games, just so we have something to do while we wait and the majority of their "fans" actually prefer the "someone else's" games to theirs.
    It's total fanboy-ism that's killing 343i.

    Like, 100%, I ****ing loved Halo 3. But in comparison to todays games, the features, the ease of playing... it sucks in comparison. I get owned in H3 these days, and I used to be a 50. In H5, I could wreck the games and boss the **** out of it. It doesn't mean I should be comparing the two games from two different eras... and a lot of people are making that mistake, and bringing nostalgia into the mix is never a good thing.

    Alas, the more the "fans" hate on 343i for doing their own thing with their own game, the more they'll start to not give a **** about what they produce. After all, how much would you hate it if every single day you got to work you had someone tell you your life's work is **** and you don't know what you're doing right and everything is just wrong... and that person has literally no idea how to do what you do... imagine it, every single day...

    The reason Bungie produced brilliant games back in the day was because Bungie got absolutely worshipped for the things they did right. Halo: Reach was them trying to step away from competitive and Halo, and it pissed a lot of people off and that ended up with Bungie making Destiny (a good, and terrible game at the same time). Positive atmospheres create better games.

    Personally, I'd just let this whole MCC chapter slide. The old games are on your new platform, that warrants the money anyway, regardless of the games new features, and functionality of those features. You bought MCC for the nostalgia anyway, and you can get that from the campaigns regardless of scoring and additional features (that aren't entirely warranted).
     
  7. Zombievillan

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    Really though, I litera bought an Xboxone solely for forging on H2A. Complete impulse buy with the hype of the "promising" new forge on a new console. I am completely disappointed in MCC. Ya the campaigns are cool to have still & all that but the fact that I'm playing a$500 next gen condole & I have this many setbacks in forge is just pathetic. We all thought frame rate would be no problem now & who would have thought the file share system would never be used like we know it should be.
     
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  8. Stevo

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    Yeah, I'm pissed too dude... it's just **** happens, no point continually complaining about it. I'm buying H5 when it comes out because I actually really liked the Beta, and the forge map on that actually looks clean and decent.
    So, this leads me to think that the more time they spend fixing a well and truly ****ed game, means the less time they'll be putting into ensuring H5 comes out in a decent state like they absolutely must do.

    There's only so long you can tip water out of a sinking ship before you're sat at the bottom of the ocean.

    What they should do is abandon MCC, focus solely on H5, and offer H5 to everyone for free who participated in the Halo 5 Beta to receive on release day as digital download.
     
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  9. Goat

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    i sympathize with 343 to an extent, because on the one hand i understand if they feel limited in their creative freedom. as a creative person, i wouldn't be okay with restrictions on what i could or could not do. it's the reason i don't like creating or remixing other people's stuff.

    but at the same time, they knew what they were getting into. when you take over a series so big and beloved such as halo, you need to be faithful to what the fanbase liked about the games. the atmosphere of the campaigns, the themes of the soundtrack, the unique art style, the iconic audio, the responsive menu, the robust custom options, and of course the tightly knit gameplay loop; these are things that have been tarnished in some form or another under 343. they're abusing their artistic license while simultaneously alienating the fanbase by deliberately or incompetently removing things that keep them there. it's like watching your new mom break all the dishes and burn all the food. you appreciate that she tries but you can only put up with so much of her bullshit.

    at this point, between the nonanswers and silence, i can no longer give 343 the benefit of the doubt. if there are honest people there who really love halo, the least they can do is throw us a bone and let us know what they plan to fix, when and how. i also invested in the xbox one primarily for H2A forge. i've always been a campaign junkie, but i can only play so much of that to justify the price of entry. Forge i know is something that can carry me for months - years even. however, if file sharing and framerate problems aren't addressed, i may just consider returning that investment. halo 5 is a long ways away and i'm not exactly itching in my seat to get it on launch day, so there's no urgency to own an xbox one at this point (although i did get a sweet deal on a white one).
     
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  10. purely fat

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    I would rather they fixed mcc and abandoned halo 5.
     
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  11. Korlash

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    I hate em too.

    And yeah, abandon Halo 5. The only thing that will convince me to get Halo 5 are friends getting it, much like call of duty a while back
     
  12. Stevo

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    With MCC you're judging the developers on content that isn't theirs.
    H5 is going to be a different game, much like Halo 4... but lets be honest, Reach was an abomination for the original series and developers. 343 have actually turned the boat around in terms of what Halo fans genuinely like, and they continue to do so.
    What they are failing at, are the fundamentals; releasing games that actually work on release day!

    I don't think they should have done MCC now. They should have made H2A, and waited with it... Once H5 was out, and their (would be then... greater) financial return was received they'd have been able to make H3A to release alongside it, and really put the effort into ensuring MCC was fully functional.
    It's a project that's been rushed, and rushed projects never succeed.
    Just to make up for it, they have to **** about and include H3: ODST now... where as before it was all about Master Chief.

    Anyway... I apologise for bringing this discussion so far off-topic! lol
     
  13. purely fat

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    @Stevo I think we are just going to have to agree to disagree. Reach at the end was still better than anything 343 has done since. ZBNS was actually really fun to play.
     
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  14. Korlash

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    Even default reach was a step above Halo 4.

    This is exactly why 343 is being judged for MCC.

    Many Halo players expected a value way higher than $60 for this collection, but it's next to worthless in its current state.

    343 just has no clue what they are doing with anything regarding Halo. They hired people who hate the franchise because they thought they could mix ideas really well.
     
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    MORE TEASE!​
     
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  16. Korlash

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    Awesome work guys. I wish I could stay inspired like you guys are.

    Though I also wish we could have a faster-paced game than H2A
     
  17. Sethiroth

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    @TaK That looks like zannos one map that he didnt finish
     
  18. SecretSchnitzel

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    Bungie didn't worship the game the did right, the hated it and acted like much of its greatness was purely by accident. That game being, of course, Halo CE.

    I can't let the MCC fiasco slide. Being on a new platform has nothing to do with the snaffu. Being cheap and not assigning enough manpower the scripting and tying the game together to be playable online, that's were the biggest problem lies. Then again, the whole project was them trying to be cheap... Promise the world, outsource such an absurd amount that it'll be damn near impossible to tie together, not to mention the lack of managerial oversight to ensure the outsourced companies were actually making the product as promised.
     
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  19. SecretSchnitzel

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    Ugh... why did you have to start talking about prospective financial returns? Why!??
     
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  20. Stevo

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    Because that's all they care about, and it's sad.
    I'd love to be in charge of one of these AAA developer companies, or even the publishers... I'd happily take a 20% loss in bonus, or sales, to put out a game that fans love so long as it actually works on release.
     

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