Rooster Teeth · The Patch #5 Watch that if you can they actually go through and show/discuss current gen DRM for downloaded content.
God, a video that shows games that are amazing and also do come out on the PS4 will be disliked just because Microsoft/XB1 is in the title, Hurpaderp idiots. I can imagine a bunch of people that chose for the PS4 creating a clan called the Loyal Dislikers. Their objective simply is, got to every Xbox One / Microsoft related video and.. 1. Secure both top comments, which ***** about the Xbox One. 2. Dislike the video quickly as HELL. (inb4likers) 3. "Eliminate" every comment that says something good about the Xbox One. Yeah.. then their job is done.
More detail for those that wanted it. Also pointing out the difference between consoles for downloaded titles.
Yes you are right, I get the point. You were right in the first place, It's not that I get extremely annoyed by them, it just annoys me a bit. Had a bad moment viewing such a video again.
Anyways, I probally have the wrong idea of DRM. People want it removed, and when it finally gets removed people want it back. Removing DRM can only be good, right?
As you might as expect, there are quite a few people on the internet. Sometimes when you read two different things that have been placed on the internet, these do not originate from the same person.
Anyone still considering a switch to ps4 should look at it this way. We complain, microsoft delivers. Can't say the same about sony can you? Haha. Microsoft dropped a decision they probably thought about thoroughly for years while making the xbox one was being made then in less then a month they throw it out the window for customers. Plus, Halo 5 and titanfall. I mean, cmon. No contest. Edit: By the way, Nothing about DRM/Always online sounds bad to me at all. Has no one ever PC gamed before? I got portal on sale a few months after release on steam for about 20% of the cost. That's less than I could but it used now... You know why they could do that. Making $15 off of a new game is more than $0 off of a used game.
There's no evidence to date to support the notion that Microsoft or other publishers would lower their game prices, used game market or no. They have the Games on Demand service yet they still charge the same as retail price. If the publishers were serious about cutting off used game sales they would have lowered their digital game prices to offer better incentive to accept "license" like policies. So using it as a justification for anything is very very sketchy. And did you seriously say "nothing about DRM/Always online sound bad to me at all". What parts seem good to you that aren't possible without those two things? Also the whole "always online screws millions of people without internet" thing and that DRM places restrictions on consumer's right to own something they pay for. There's quite a lot of leeway between "DRM/Always online doesn't affect me"(personal opinion) and "nothing about bla bla bla sounds bad AT ALL" (general statement of believed fact)
Absolutely agree. This is one of my main qualms with the digital distribution/DRM model that MS seem to want to move towards. I know the emphasis is still on discs with the original XBone plan, but frankly that's a cursory physical element. It might as well be a download code at the point you install the game. One of the core advantages of digital distribution is easier, and thus cheaper distribution. You don't have to produce more physical copies of the game to sell more, nor do you have to finance shipping etc. The only cost past development of the game is server maintenance and bandwidth for the download service, reducing costs compared to physical distribution. But are MS passing on these savings as of now? No. Steam does, and that's one of the reasons it's so great imo. Why on earth would I purchase a downloadable copy of an Xbox game, which is then tied to my account (can't be resold or lent) and needs to be redownloaded if I want to play on another console, when the price is exactly the same? It's ridiculous.
You're not downloading the game from the servers though, you're downloading it from the disc still. I'm a bit confused what you find so ridiculous though. If you were to lose your disc, I'm assuming you would have been allowed to put the disc back in and re-download (from the disc) or more conveniently redownload if you lost, or even damaged your disc (from the servers). Could you clear that up though? I'm not exactly sure what you're getting at. Anyways, Microsoft just cleared free game patching (for the X360) so I'm pretty happy about that. Say what you will about Microsoft, but I think they're making an honest effort to give the consumers what they want/need. People might complain and say Sony has always done this (which they haven't... 3 years ago is more accurate), but the fact that Microsoft is willing to change said policies is pretty cool IMO. I just hope that it carries over to the X1... Pretty confident it will.
Yes, I'm not saying that disc based games should cost less because they are like DD, because obviously that's not true. My point there was that, in terms of available functionality, they're trying to push towards the DD model. It's like the worst of both worlds. All the cost of physical distribution, but none of the advantages. That was separate from the actual complaint about cost of DD games because obviously that point is moot when there's still a disc involved. I was just bringing that up to point out that, even with a remaining focus on physical media, the original plan was trying to push things towards a DD-esque model in terms of the advantages it affords them. My complaint about price was with regards to their actual DD games via XBL, which are still priced the same as physical copies. Are you saying that isn't just a tiny bit ridiculous? I have literally never lost an xbox disc, or any of my other console games actually. PC games, sure, but once they're installed I put them elsewhere and by and large I shared PC games with my brother, who was less careful. Still, it's affected me all of 2 or 3 times in like 15+ years of gaming. Yes, it's definitely a possibility, especially if you move a lot or travel to friend's houses to game, but the advantage of being able to redownload in that rare instance doesn't even close to outweigh the other advantages of a disc in terms of reusability, at least for me. I think the added incentive of lower DD price is what makes the system good overall, and the disc hybrid doesn't have that for obvious reasons, hence me calling it the worst of both worlds. Also, is there any indication that you would have been able to redownload without the disc, even if the game were tied to your account? I didn't see anything to that effect, and if not then you still need the disc just as much, even though you're still restricted by the tie-in model.