And how is do you expect them to get experience without having run a website? oVR has a website in front of him now, might as well give him a chance. This'll be a learning curve certainly, but if it's successful than no harm no foul right? And maybe rather than jumping in and calling foul, we can work with oVR and help them along the way in an intelligent manner and increase the level of enjoyment across this website for everyone. No point in wasting energy being negative all the time trying to start crap up. For better or for worse, oVR runs the website and the best we can do is helps as much as we can. EDIT: Again, on a more positive note: Is anyone going to reinstate the testers guild?
The Tester's Guild from the days of old is gone, but we have plans to implement other means of giving and receiving feedback. Stay tuned on that issue
Oh I see. You personally gave up on Halo so that means all of Halo is dead...for everyone. Makes no sense man. This is no place to complain. We're here to discuss plans for our community, if you're not in the same boat as us, might has well get a new hobby and leave us be.
No. Halo 4's population count speaks for him. I think the fact that he hasn't posted here in forever and said "good luck with that anyways" means he did find a new hobby.
So negativity and arguing is going to help the situation even more? If you look at it in a less pessimistic view, halo STILL has a community, and that community can rise and fall, and with those rises can bring new players and more forgers that could stumble upon forgehub and give more life to this forging community, the halo community isn't completely dead, and there will be new people getting halo 5. So why be so negative?
So you play Halo because it's popular, the population count surely has a big influence doesn't it? I personally play a game because it is awesome, fun, epic etc. Not because its popularity. If it's popular, great, if it isn't that popular.. What is the big deal? (We) I enjoy the game. We can start a whole discussion about this, and I can say more about it. But not here, not now.
They presented facts, coupled with their own standpoint, gave their blessings, and left; I don't even see any arguing, because they were polite about it. Why get so defensive over it? I don't think they're being negative because they want Halo to fail, they just recognize that it isn't what it was when they were around. I think telling them that there's no place for them and that they should get out (even though most of them have) for having that depressing opinion is a bit extreme, don't you? Regardless, arguing about the nature of arguments is getting silly and the last thing I feel should be on this thread. No I don't. I don't get why so many people jump to such ridiculous conclusions/accusations when looking at an opposing opinion... Should I start assuming a bunch of people here that disagree with me are a bunch of Halo fanboys with no independent thought, who will jump on 343i's **** just because you guys say you like a specific aspect of Halo 4? I think a game's popularity severely impacts the ubiquity of custom game lobbies with more than 3 people, and the ability of an even smaller fan-site to be active/successful.
Does anybody have the numbers from Halo 3 or Halo: Reach or is just known fact that Halo 4's population is comparatively low? Just curious. Also, were there that many AAA releases around those launches? I know Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare was Halo 3's main competitor, stole quite a bit a its population but there weren't a whole lot of multiplayer titles to come out after that. I know there have been a lot of great games to come out this year and the last.
Don't just jump ship and leave, man. No matter what your views are, let things play out and hey, it might get better.
just going to say that the people who appear to be new weren't active before because this place was a complete hell hole full of power abuse and favoritism. oVR is a highly passionate person and cares deeply for halo and is also an intelligent person, he knows what he's doing, stick around and help this place get out of the sewers instead of leaving.
Might get better, never the less I am growing a bit too old to be here every night. Got other things to worry about. And i've picked up some friends here. I will be keeping in touch with them. Tis the only reason I come here, for the community. Really? I don't see it at all. what? Even if it was full of corruptz then it was still a fun place and we DID have a community. Might have been divided but no one overtook each other like they do now.
To me, it doesn't look like oVR knows what he is doing for a number of reasons. But, I don't know the full story.
We don't really have a lot of great data available to us. Halo 3 has inflated population numbers and we don't have consistent numbers for Halo Reach's population. Bungie did release info about how many matches were played in Reach up until the point that they stopped tracking stats on their website. 343 also did this with Halo 4 some time ago and on average Reach beat Halo 4 even though the latter wasn't out until recently. I'd have to look up the exact numbers, but can't really be bothered. Also, while there may be more competition than before, there are also many more 360 consoles out there and a larger userbase. It should be noted that Halo 4 did initially sell the fastest of all Halos. Not much has been said about sales afterwards, though. Halo 4 also has the sharpest decline is multiplayer population of all Halo games of which we have decent data. gobblegobble Making the forums look like a random game fansite from the 2000s will surely bring in more people.
As much as I want to believe this, you got any proof to back that up? I haven't seen much of oVR but I haven't like what I've seen so far. I'll reserver judgement on the simple factor that I don't know the guy and this is a pretty big step up for a random member. I'm willing to give him a chance, and it's not like I can do much about it anyway. Doth thou even hoist comrade?
So leave. If you cant deal with your issues enough to bring some intelligent arguments to the table I'd just rather you not contribute to this conversation and make room for those who are seriously interested in discussing the site and its future. I don't mean to be rude or offensive, I'm simply trying to tell you that none of your comments have been the least bit helpful other than remind us all that some members have issues with oVR. Yes, he's doing a lot without explaining himself, but he says that he will do that soon, so lets just hear him out before we start calling him names and trying to start revolutions that we all won't end well.
Under prior rules, I was infracted for being helpful. It's impossible to run a website in a way that everyone will be happy with. We just need some clearly stated rules/expectations set forth. Obviously people shouldn't be infracted for breaking a rule that nobody knew about, but let's keep this in perspective. Calling someone you don't know a dictator is pretty ridiculous. If I went into a restaurant and called the owner/manager a dictator in front of all the staff and patrons, I'm pretty sure I'd be escorted out and banned from the premises. I know some of you are not really familiar with Overkill, or some of the other new staff. Having participated in several other forge forums, though, they are all excellent choices in my opinion. You're getting people that may not have been active on this site for various reasons, but who have been very active in the forging community. You're getting people that are willing to put in time and effort to help other forgers individually, and help grow the community as a whole. Change is always difficult. In this case, though, change is absolutely necessary. In order to implement change successfully, there must be a clear, strong vision, and people willing to follow through with that vision. We don't need an owner that's wishy washy, or even worse...just completely absent. If the color of a name, or the color of a skin is enough to drive you from the site, then...well...goodbye. Most of the complaints being voiced are so minor as to be laughable. Of course, everyone has the right to voice their dissatisfaction with such things, but they are being blown way out of proportion. It's counterproductive. I'm sure that Overkill's goal is to make this website the hub of all things forge. If you don't like something that's being done, my advice is to voice your concern calmly and politely. We all have to accept that there are things that we personally may not like, or things that we may do differently. In the end, though, we all have the same goal, and we would all be wise to let the little things go and keep our eyes on the bigger picture.