I meant any kind of semi-automatic with a large clip to be honest. I don't know a whole lot about guns and am still researching current gun legislation so a semi-automatic shotgun might not be legal. AFAIK there aren't any automatics that are legal though, are there?
Cool question mark. Next time when you quote a 12 year old NRA produced film about South Australia from "conservativevideos.com", consider not doing that. snopes.com: Australian Guns Stats (You might need to look at the image in a new window if you're using Reach Dark theme) Annual firearm homicides total (Australia) 2010: 30 2009: 36 2008: 27 2007: 28 2006: 41 2005: 15 2004: 15 2003: 54 2002: 45 2001: 47 2000: 57 1999: 50 1998: 57 1997: 79 1996: 104 1995: 67 1994: 76 1993: 64 1992: 96 1991: 84 1990: 79 1989: 80 1988: 123 Statistics between years isn't helpful at all when you're dealing with numbers so small. Between 2006 and 2007 in Japan saw an increase of 1000% in firearms related homicides, when the jump was from 2 to 22.
I know this thread died but I never saw it till now. No harm in posting my thoughts anyways. IMO, assault rifles are uneccasary. There's entry of weapons that aren't needed, my brother in law just bought a pistol grip shotgun with a chainsaw handle that also cocks the gun, then he bought a holographic sight that he can't even see through cuz the big handle. That's ridiculous. Regardless, there will always be crime & stupid people will always be killing other people. What I don't get is that the government is so stern about this so they can protect our children, yet they not only allow but support the murder of innocent, helpless babies by abortion. Millions and millions of human lives taken away without their discretion is ok, but we can't have you buying crazy guns in case they get stolen & used in murder.
Relating gun control politics to abortion politics in one paragraph can't be a good thing.. just sayin'
1. Abortion is the act of removing a fetus/ embryo, not "murdering innocent and helpless babies". 2. The laws of government are by and large a reflection of the wants and needs of the people, so if you hate abortion, it's not "the government" you should blame. 3. You're religious right? Feel free not to answer. Does that have anything to do with your opinion? Feel free not to answer.
I don't want to start anything crazy. I am religious but before I ever started following Christ I disagreed with abortion. Any "fetus or embryo" with a heartbeat is a living human being. So I feel it's wrong to "remove" (kill) it. I know it's a different subject but the govt funds it so they support it. Now they are concerned about children's safety but a child is a child whether they are in school or in the womb. It's a terrible thing that happened to those kids and it's happening all the time but I don't think they can stop it honestly. There is illegal guns & lots of people have them. I guess it is out of line to bring up abortion but I just think our govt's got things backwards. Yes our children should be safe but why doesn't that count because they aren't born yet? I tell you, it's a human being way before it exits the womb. That's with religion set aside.
I don't think they actually reach heartbeat before 22 weeks, which is the UK limit (past 22 weeks you can't abort). I'm sure you agree that the retail of egg-made products like omelettes is a sick and horrific industry edit forgot this was gun control thread, so whatever my stand: being able to use guns for anything other than hobby/entertainment in restricted/monitored environments is a bad thing for now, it's because crime is rampant in many places. having guns also contributes to this crime, but it is not fallacious to say it's a slippery slope, because it is actually a cycle people carry guns on street > people can get easy access to guns > people can commit more serious crimes more easily > people carry guns on street I think until crime is somehow miraculously solved, yes people should be allowed to carry weapons on the street. An assault rifle, however, is not made for "protecting yourself"
Lol, calm down guys. My opinion is just mine. I understand the govt reflects the people's wants but our people once thought all black people should be slaves & the govt thought it was cool. Doesn't mean it was good.
"My opinion is just mine" I don't think you've understood the point of a debate/discussion thread and what is with that analogy
It goes transhuman. The govt reflects what the people want so be mad at the people not the govt. Well if the people want something wrong then the govt should step in & say no. Like slavery for instance, was wrong and our govt failed with that for a long time. Abortion is wrong too so our govt is failing again but I've taken this way too far off topic so I'll back off. The whole thing with abortion being brought up was bad on my part. I just find it hypocritical to slam down on guns to protect our nations children when we ARE KILLING millions by abortion daily.
It's not hypocritical firstly, guns aren't to protect our nations children secondly, abortion isn't killing children an unborn foetus is comparable to an egg to make an omelette you have to kill a few baby chickens, is that how that saying goes? Abortion is not wrong. You can't just assume it is for the sake of your argument. That's about as good debate manners as me saying Christianity is wrong and so you're wrong.
Disease, famine and religiously inspired conflict over land are killing millions of children actually. But your god doesn't seem to have an answer for those. Until recently it was thought that un-baptised children went to limbo, so for centuries that's where people thought their dead children go. Your god doesn't seem to have an answer for that either. Lastly, slavery is sanctioned in the Bible, and that's why it took so long to prohibit. You need to stop being a mouth-piece for the tea party and start getting information for yourself.
Why is it that anytime I touch a thread unrelated to halo religion gets thrown in? I find it funny, it's like you sit in wait on a video game site to attack on anything you dislike which usually ends up being religion. I made it very clear that my religion has no weight on my thoughts in this thread. By the way, all those children you mentioned are dying, so does that make it okay to kill the millions who have no say so cuz they aren't born yet?! Would you really compare an unborn chicken to a human. Idk if you have a kid but comparing them is laughable. Animals are on the food chain, humans aren't but maybe that's just an opinion too. I know guns aren't meant to protect our children. Fact of the matter is that those children were murdered & now its time to crack down on gun control so this doesn't happen again. I'm saying what about these aborted children too? I don't see how it's not wrong to abort an innocent child. They didn't ask to be conceived, but they are a physical human regardless. That's murder regardless of how you say it.
I find it 'laughable' that you're taking the high ground here, as if you are Yahweh thinking to himself about how right he is and how wrong the people are. Quite frankly, I don't see why religion is a no-flight zone but you can make a mockery of the government. Why is religion beyond criticism? Originally I just brought this up as comparison, because you're making unreasonable assumptions. Would you be happy if I just bluntly said ABORTION IS RIGHT THEREFORE YOU ARE WRONG because that is what you are doing the existance of abortion does not illegitimize opposition to gun control in ANY way I could say "The bible says that killing children is acceptable, therefore guns are not needed because we don't need to protect children" but I'm not you
Religion gets thrown around in a video game site in a discussion thread that has nothing to do with said game and because you started it with an obvious religion based viewpoint that had little to no connection to the discussion topic. /run-on
No, it's just assumed that my opinion is a religious viewpoint. I have been a Christian for only 5 years. I disagreed with abortion way before that. That's the point I'm making about religion being thrown in. I'm not Christianity speaking, I'm just a Christian speaking my opinion. Moving on.