I'm putting this thread here because it covers both Halo 3, Halo 3 ODST, Halo Reach, and Halo 4. I'm just wondering people in the Halo community consider a person to be a noob if they choose the assault rifle over the pistol, specifically. Now first off, I just want people to be aware of the fact that my experience with Halo MP has only been in Halo 3, Halo: Reach, and Halo 4. I never played Halo MP or Halo 2 MP(but from what I've heard about it, it sounds like it was tons of fun). I personally don't think it's a fair assessment of an individual who has both a Pistol and an AR and they drop the pistol, then it's automatically assumed that person is a noob. When faced with a situation like that, noob would not be my first thought. My first thought would be "oh, he's out of ammo for the pistol, there are no pistols lying around, and the concussion rifle is the nearest available weapon that has ammo in it (I mean really, does it make sense to carry one fully loaded weapon and one empty weapon).". I personally do not choose the pistol, for the simple fact that I don't like it. Now I will admit that the AR isn't all that powerful, but I like it, plain and simple. When you stack the pistol against the DMR, it's not that powerful. I do use it on occasion, but if I were to come across a weapon like the DMR, then I would pick the DMR over the pistol, and I would hold onto the AR. That's my personal choice, take it however you choose. But please don't think any less of me. When posting replys, please be respectful of others. Thank you.
No, I agree with you. Especially back in H3, where the pistol was utter trash... I never wanted that thing in my hands. Then i evolved; it was amazing in Reach, so i kept it. In Halo: 4, i never drop my primarys. The DMR and Bolshot is better than anything else ever.
Reach pistol was amazing. But that was it. Every other game (sans CE) I switched it as fast as I could.
I haven't played Halo or Halo 2 multiplayer either. But who cares who thinks you are a noob? I don't care what people think. My advice is play the game the way that suits your playstyle and use the weapons you like to use, that is what they are in the game for. I will say however that the DMR has not been balanced with the LR, BR, or CC. There is like no point to even using the other 3 weapons when you can just kill easier and at a longer distance with the DMR. Kinda sucks as I wish there was more incentive to actually use other precision weapons (in BTB). I wish there was a classic BTB playlist where people only had BRs
I'm a DMR user, but even I admit that a proper classic experience should be forced BR starts. The modded no sprint gametype, with BR starts and movement settings changed accordingly (I think it's 120% speed? Tsb knows) is a fantastic classic experience.
Thanks. On topic. I don't consider use of the AR to be inherently more nooby. I admit, I think you're more likely to be bad if you use it, since it's inherently a gun that people with worse aim and ranged awareness are drawn to. But that doesn't make it inherently nooby, just a heavy correlation.
Well in BTB, seeing as AR > Ghost, I tend to run AR. I don't really see it as a nooby choice, just a smart one. Even for regular slayer I suggest using what you are best with.
Thanks guys ill try out that modded no sprint with the speed and jump settings and BRs on Valhalla ...just gotta replace Mantis with Wraith I think.
The AR is the best it's ever been, and I routinely defeat the BR/DMR hordes because I understand range and control. Do what suits you, so long as you give everything an equal shot.
I have an LR / AR loadout that I use specifically for BTB maps with close quarters areas because AR rapes at close range.
Yeah it has gotten a nice buff... I actually get killed quite often by people using the AR when I have a DMR in BTB at close range. So it definitely has it's advantages. I haven't gotten good with it yet. I am going to make a Firepower loadout for small maps with a BR and AR loadout. But for BTB I gotta use my Plasma Pistol which has been one of my favorite weapons since Halo 3 I would always grab it from the map location in every match. I do think it kinda sucks that it's a loadout weapon now though.
If it has a wide firing pattern then yes. Precision autos are incredibly skilful, check out the Lightning Gun from Quake 3/Live to see what I mean. As long as an auto is high precision and not super high damage then it takes plenty of skill. The SAW is pretty damn high damage which stop is being super skilful, but that's fair enough since it's a power weapon. The Focus Rifle was actually a pretty nice precision auto, much better done than the Sentinel Beam in terms of power, and imo the only small downside was that the charge lasted for-freakin'-ever. But yes, by and large Halo has never really done skilled auto weapons very well.
What really used to put me off the Focus Rifle was that I would always get Framerate lag whilst firing it. OT: Using the most fundamental weapon in the game doesn't make you a noob. The AR has always had a place in Halo and it always should IMO. It's there to be used.
It's down to skill at the end of the day. Keeping your distance from AR users works well once youre aware of the range on an AR. Its like a sniper rifle. Potential 1 hit kills from it. But only for those capable of getting the headshot. I suck with ARs but not cause they suck. I've seen some pretty good AR kills from people who know how to control their bursts to retain accuracy. A Dmr is only useful in a duel if you can get them in the head otherwise you might aswell stick to the BR or AR. Everyone has their own preference. Don't let people pressure you into using 'Pro' weapons. They just dislike the fact that you're getting kills with a weapon they can't use as well. There are no 'Nooby' starter weapons. It comes.down to how you use them at the end of the day. -TS
Facepalm. No. Of course not. Why would you not pick up a power weapon? It is more likely to get you kills which means your team is more likely to win. The AR is not necessarily more likely to get you kills than a magnum, but it is arguably easier to learn to use. However an Incin Cannon, being a power weapon, is designed to make it easier to get kills. There is no reason to pass it up and that is the reason you can't spawn with one (and the reason you shouldn't be able to drop one via personal ordnance.)