And even though halo 4 is around the corner, and i ordered the limited edition.. I will have to hold back to play halo, for endless hours. Man, I wish school wasnt such an big problem. [br][/br]Edited by merge: Because it is not coming back? What do you want to do about that? I know people have to decide for their own, but these statements have been really attacking to the game. Yet again, that are your own feelings about it, understandable. I have some things i dislike too, but i tend to look at the good things for now, and some people look at the bad things, and compare them.
I had a release version ready to go and was just going to let those people who wanted to make maps for it do so. But then Shock and Chuck convinced (or rather… eased me into my decision) to wait since some minor glitches (like juggernaut being ****ed) kept it from living up to what I wanted from it.
So stay in reach and play mini-games. The creative people will get over the fact that the tools they relied on before are gone, and they'll find new and inventive ways to create games with what is there now. Potentially better than what they knew before.
I have to decide for myself whether it's worth $60 to buy this game. Actually I have to make that decision about every game that comes out that I'm aware of, but most I decide not to buy because I'm not made of money and I wouldn't have time to play them all, anyway. Halo has previously been an automatic purchase for me, and I thought this one would be too, but I'm starting to feel like maybe I should think more carefully about it. Why is that a problem for you? How does it impact you in any way? And if something I say is "attacking to the game," why is THAT a problem for you? That's not my intent, but even if it was, why do you care? Is your identity so wrapped up in the success of this game that it is personally injurious to you if some random person says something negative about it? I swear, this thread and the entire meta-conversation that has consumed it gives me a headache. People would rather argue about whether it's acceptable to have opinions than just talk about the substance of those opinions.
In light of it though, the Shade turret was actually useless. It wasn't powerful enough to actually kill anything and the fact it had cover was still just as useless as it took ages to get out of the damn thing if anyone fired a fuel rod / rocket / grenade or anything explosive at it. You were always dead meat climbing into a Shade. With that said, maybe the new Halo 4 Shade is actually usable in the sense of risk verses reward. If it were more like a railgun (which it kinda looks like it would be) that 1 hit kills with a bit of splash damage it'd be pretty good. It could be like a stationary Gauss turret in hindsight.
If the game was free I'd be happy to roll the dice on that one. Unfortunately it's not. I ask again, what are the good tools in Halo 4? I'm not asking facetiously or rhetorically; I'm offering the chance for you (or anyone) to improve my outlook on this game and swing me back around to wanting to buy it. Because right now I'm on the fence and slightly leaning toward "no." I've never been that blown away by the possibilities of trait zones, so you can skip that one. Anything else that's in the game that offers some possibilities, I'd love to hear about it - really.
Honestly, I don't know. I haven't sought them out. I don't like mini-games. I don't play mini-games. I like playing HALO. Slayer. Capture the Flag. I like playing on real default maps and not forever playing customs on someone else's poorly forged map. I am merely saying that this community... as they always have... will take what is there and do unique and unexpected things with them. If you don't feel the game is worth your $60, that is totally fine. But I come here to converse and be excited about Halo. Not come in and read paragraphs about how the game is ruined from 50 people. You guys haven't even played it yet. Give it a rest.
I never said it is an problem. Make your decision the way you want, if you choose to do that carefully, thats ok. You dont have to react that way. Im with thesilencebroken here, i came here for the same exact reason.
dude you realize of of these assets of reach your arguing about weren't known at the game launch, unless they were found in halo 3. Calm down, because minigames will thrive in halo 4, just give it alittle time before some loopholes pop up.
Wow. So even though this is my community as much as it is yours, and even though I've loved and played Halo since the original, I have to shut my mouth because my legitimate, politely-stated concerns about this game affect your mood?
No sir. I'm just saying that if you don't like the changes to Halo 4, and you feel it's not worth your money, there are other parts of the site for you to indulge in. You can express positivity in other areas of the site (such as the Reach mini-games section) rather than being negative in the Halo 4 section. I don't understand the point of coming to a place where everyone comes to for a common love, and then just being negative about it. The game is just coming out. It's exciting. Just let everyone enjoy it. Ya know?
This is a halo 4 discussion thread anything and everything relating to halo 4 is allowed to be discussed here. You may not like some topics I may not like some topics(like reviews I think are retarded but still have 10+ pages discussing it) so its gonna be discussed either way. I come here to try and convince myself to get the game not "for a common love", I want to play it I really do(because like nutduster said every previous halo has been auto buy for me), But I can't bring myself to put $60 into the game as of yet. I'm trying to find out all the info i can, The good the bad and ugly. I couldn't find much info or videos so idk much about it, If it does more damage and is actually viable it would be much better then reach's one but still not a "new" vehicle. Stationary gauss turret is something i wanted if it does shoot like that? Is that how it shoots? or are you just saying IF it shoots like that?
Ya know what? Fair enough. I'm gonna go play something and entertain myself until I get my hands on the game again, and once that happens, this thread is useless to me anyways.
The point is that I'm as focused on the release of this game as you are, even if my excitement has been more of a rollercoaster ride of ups and downs. And if I suddenly have the depressing realization that I'm not feeling too excited about the game one day before launch and not even sure if I want to spend the money on it, I don't understand why I shouldn't say that, or why it ruins your good time if I do. There are some people in this thread and on this site that are pointlessly, relentlessly negative. I get that. But I don't appreciate being lumped in with them on the rare occasion that I say something less than sunny. Again, it gets into this whole identity war that doesn't interest me in the slightest. It's not always us vs. them, optimists vs. pessimists. Some of us just want to be individuals with complicated opinions and talk about the game, good or bad. The other point is that, like I said, I'm not 100% out on this game, not even close. I just realized that this is the first time I seriously considered not buying it, but I am willing - and actually WANTING - to be talked out of it. I'd love it if someone had something to say that really got me excited about this again. I've played Halo for over a decade - it would be damn weird and uncomfortable for me to choose to not buy the new one. Maybe this is a good point for Berb or someone who has an advance copy to chime in.
Haha I knew it. [br][/br]Edited by merge: Berb, can you tell me if Safe Havens are still there? (Pleeeeaaase let it be so)
I would guess not, they weren't popular in Reach at all outside of customs. Interesting idea, not great execution, IMO.
My opinion is that if you're only really interested in mini-games and forge, don't get it. They've moved more towards the default game.
That's my worry. The thing is, I played a lot of Reach matchmaking, but I still found a lot of that experience to be kind of a letdown - I didn't like vanilla Reach (was quite happy with TU though), didn't like the on-disc forge variants in matchmaking, and ultimately only truly loved two playlists (squad slayer and multi-team) in the entire lifespan of Reach matchmaking. That's a pretty dismal batting average. Traditionally I have loved objective games but I didn't like most of the maps for objective play (gametypes were fine, maps were not) in Reach. The jury's out on H4, but considering that they removed assault and changed CTF in ways that terrify me, I'm not sure how I'm going to feel about it; some good flag maps would mitigate that a lot though. I also loved BTB in Halos 1-3 but didn't love it in Reach because of the poor default maps mixed with mediocre-to-poor forged maps; again, I'm hoping it will be a lot better in H4. So if default matchmaking is better than vanilla Reach, BTB and/or objective are improved, and playlist management is better... then matchmaking could be enough for me. But that's a lot of ifs.
Nutduster, at a certain point, nothing you can read, watch, or have someone tell you, will give you the answers you want. You really really just have to have it in your hands to make your own determination on it. Whether that means going to a friend who has it before getting it yourself is fine but you have to chill a little bit. What did you do before the things in Reach that you liked were there? You adapted, you made the best with what you had and you made creative things out of them. That will always be the case. So you can't remake things as easily. Make new things. You know what is the basest level of imagination? Copying what already exists. I don't know about you but I don't want to play nothing but Reach maps made in Halo 4 for the first month of Halo 4.
I have only played one game, and it was exciting as hell. Everything feels better than Reach. Everything. If you enjoyed the TU, this is 100 times better. So, with that information, I say rent it, or find a friend who has it and test drive it. If you haven't made up your mind yet, the only way you'll know for sure is playing it yourself.