Halo 4 Discussion

Discussion in 'Halo and Forge Discussion' started by thesilencebroken, Jun 6, 2011.

  1. Spicy Forges

    Spicy Forges Ancient
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    The brute plasma rifle has never been forgeable/placeable and neither has the scarab. Plus if they included every weapon/vehicle thats ever been useable custom games thats like 10 extra things they needed to include.
     
  2. WWWilliam

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    So we should just sit quietly play the game holding in our disappointment that there isn't enough vehicles/custom game options/forge features? Then when halo 5 comes out we do the same since they didn't learn from there mistakes, Then with halo 6 we do the same then again with halo 7,etc,etc,etc.

    I don't like complaining for sake of complaining where also not expecting anything to change in halo 4 because of the discussion but discussing criticisms of the game helps improve the game and educate the player base. (Which is beneficial for future games if nothing else)
     
  3. SpartanPeter

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    I think we have to see the Mantis as an replacement for an UNSC air vehicle. It can, if it has a good driver, take out an banshee with ease. But then again, if the banshee has an good driver, it can take out the mantis, with a few well placed shots. The same with the falcon, it could take out a banshee, but only if you have 1 or 2 good gunner(s)
    But we just have to accept the fact that they are not going to include every single thing, just for customs.

    Edit : But i dont get this : I think the falcon or hornet is in campaign right? What is the reason then to not include it to multiplayer and/or forge.
     
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  4. Transhuman Plus

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    I see the sticky launcher as an [sic] replacement for the human air vehicle. I mean, they both kill things, what's the difference.
     
  5. PacMonster1

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    "Educate the player base" maybe, improve the game...not so much. Listing what disappoints you in an upcoming game in a forum no official person looks at doesn't improve squat.

    The "if we don't complain they won't learn" argument was never really a good one. Not that what ticky said was good and I disagreed with his sentiment that people shouldn't say anything if they can't say anything nice. I just dislike that kind of argument against his because it really isn't true.
     
  6. Ticky

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    I'm just sick of people complaining about the things that can't be changed. It does nothing. And I know I can't control what everyone says, I just think talking about the things that are in the game would generally be a better discussion.
     
  7. LIGHTSOUT225

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    Not on Forge Hub it won't.
     
  8. SpartanPeter

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    I ment to compare them, they replaced the Falcon for the Mantis, thats what i actually ment.

    I have to agree with this, we actually all should.
     
  9. SmartAlec13

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    This guy wins.

    I keep seeing so many people complaining about features, about other things.

    Complaining on a Forge Hub forum won't help. Obviously if so many people dislike something about the game, complaining is necessary, but to the right people.

    So find a way to..

    #1. Make the complaints less whiny, more professional.
    #2. Put these complains somewhere that many people will see it
    #3. Bring these complaints (with the support of numbers from the thread in a more public forum) to someone who CAN actually do something.

    Obviously 343 isn't going to add a new vehicle with the game less than two weeks away. BUT they can still see what players want and don't want, and then put it in the next game.

    Also, complaining right now won't help much since they will be paying more attention after the game is actually released.

    So for now, discuss. But don't complain because you think it will help or change things, and don't not complain just because you think it won't matter.
     
  10. Transhuman Plus

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    You're right man. I mean, people hated bloom, but did they ever remove it? Or release a Title Update that removes it? Of course not.

    I wouldn't go into Waypoint with one of those sticks they clean pools with, and MLG is for douches. Forgehub is the perfect place for book-reading, delicate-wristed, brace-toothed, glasses-wearing whining.
     
  11. Loscocco

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    This place would be Waypoint so boring if we were all just a bunch of fanboys that have our heads up our asses...
     
  12. chrstphrbrnnn

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    If anything, it'll just make Bungie hate has all over again.

    ;)
     
  13. Narfidy444

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    So this is TOTALY of topic from all of your ranting but what do you think will happen with the killcam if you get squashed by a vehicle?

    Will it just show you point of view or the [vehicle's]
     
  14. Transhuman Plus

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    Better an angry lover than to never have loved.
     
  15. That Scorch Guy

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    I stopped visiting Waypoint around the 20th time I had to "give one reason why Sprint could be bad". It also seems like a good amount of the people there haven't played more than 10 games of a Halo that wasn't Reach.

    Sigh.

    I come to Forgehub because I'd like to say that people here actually can hold a competent discussion (theory, design and what's actually in the game) better than most forums I've visited. Granted, it doesn't say much when you look at "most forums", but hey, every little bit, right?

    And as for less is more, I personally only apply it to weapon/gametype/vehicle roles, as in such items that have huge overlap are unnecessary. I don't think the Falcon or Hornet (in the context of their respective titles, Reach and 3) had much of an overlap in terms of role on the battlefield. The AR and the SMG did. There's a difference.
     
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  16. zeppfloydsabbtull

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    They're really just hurting themselves when they don't give players opportunities to play the DLC in MM because fewer people will buy the next DLC. Of course, not giving us those opportunities after we paid more is inconsiderate as well. I think that that is reason enough to have an underpopulated playlist, but the population could be improved by only offering the playlist on weekends or something like that. I would have played a lot of Squad if it was TU (like the rest of the game) and I did play a lot of anniversary and never had trouble finding a match, even in a large party.

    Perhaps your falcon response was referring to my post, but if it was, it was a rather indirect way of brushing aside the argument by implying that it doesn't matter. Just in case you thought that I was asking if it was going to be in the game, though, here was the page of the post I was referring to:

    http://www.forgehub.com/forum/halo-...-halo-4-discussion-no-spoilers-leaks-797.html
     
  17. schuss

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    Well in all honesty, everyone who's joined waypoint joined following marketing campaigns from specifically from Microsoft, aimed at the Reach playerbase and bringing people who have only played Reach and possibly halo 3 into the mix.
     
  18. SilentJacket

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    In all honesty, as much as I might wine about the changes and breaks, I'll continue sticking with Halo till' Halo XXIV rolls out.
     
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  19. schuss

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    But it doesn't really fully replace it. It can't traverse the battlefield at nearly the same speed, and due to that can't control the battlefield nearly as well. Sometimes vehicles that are in the same "tier" don't have to completely negate each other.
    I am however peeved that they didn't include any form of UNSC air vehicle that could compete with the banshee, or even a transport air vehicle. Maybe in campaign, although its unlikely that that will happen, as they wouldn't spend time and resources on something that isn't going into the multiplayer, but yet you can use in campaign. They will have the pelican I assume.
     
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