Halo 4 Discussion

Discussion in 'Halo and Forge Discussion' started by thesilencebroken, Jun 6, 2011.

  1. cluckinho

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    ViDoc in 10 minutes.
     
  2. Waylander

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    Probably some bullshit about spartan ops or else just the next map and not anything to ease our concerns with forge or matchmaking.
     
  3. chrstphrbrnnn

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    I wanna focus on this statement right here because this is the EXACT same thing the FH haters do; they lump every member on the site into a category when they disagree with a single or select few members' opinions and label it "Forge Hub" mentality. Forge Hub is such an open community that there can't even be a mentality here. There are so many members that completely disagree, members that do and don't voice their opinions and members who do hate the site but are still actively members. I understand that people like to have labels, since they're easier to describe things with but it does begin to spread a negative image of all members associated with that label (site), especially to people who may not be familiar with said site or its members.


    Man, I got a lot to catch up on in this thread.
     
  4. cluckinho

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  5. Waylander

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    Can I get a summary? I'm in class so cannot watch videos for the next few hours.
     
  6. Marcass2021

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    im a now genuinly nervous about forge after reading all of Overkill's thread on THC. I hope that he just has a copy of halo 3.999999 and not the fully finished halo 4. But there are still reasons to remain optimistic.

    The Bad (not just forge) (The things I care about)
    1. No Falcon or Hornet - WTF 343
    2. No Revenant - dafuq?
    3. no way to identify AAs in forge - thats an easy fix. DO IT.
    4. no fine editing/nudging - WHY would you remove that? you have the control space for it. USE IT
    5. Issues with merging into the map's natural geometry - well thats a step down from Reach
    6. Not being able to drop the flag - thats just dumb, but we'll adapt i guess
    7. Gametypes - why so Few? where did assault go? why no invasion? territories?
    8. Not being able to remove the built in buildings on Impact and Erosion - we'll adapt i guess, would have been better if we could remove them.
    9. Generating Lighting, Please Wait - I know it only does that when you place a new object, but that cuts into our time way too much
    10. Firefight - Please give this back to us

    THE GOOD
    1. the weapons - holy **** are they awesome, the sounds, the looks, the variety!
    2. The maps - they all look amazing, yes they are mostly big, but fast paced game will change that.
    3. the campaign - Good lord am i excited for that
    4. THE MANTIS - nuff said
    5. Valhalla - " "
    6. 3 forge environments - they all look really sexy
    7. Flood - awesome new direction for infection
    8. Trait zones and Grav zones - THANK YOU 343
    9. new objects to forge with - I hoped for more, but atleast we got some!
    10 Spartan Ops - THis is going to be amazing
     
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  7. aPK

    aPK Greatest Forger Alive
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    Check your PMs.
     
  8. Marcass2021

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    ok.. that Vidoc made me reallllly excited for Sparton Ops. Restored some faith in forge and multiplayer
     
  9. SilentJacket

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    so, apparently, they show MC's face at the end of H4

    way to go 343i, yet another useless/detrimental "Were not Bungie" decision.
     
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  10. mazdak26

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    ****. Those assholes...
     
  11. cluckinho

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    um, how about you spoiler that, bro.

    damn I want to watch that bts but it looks like ass for some reason, so I guess I'll wait for the Yt mirror.
     
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  12. Chron

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    Quoting it just makes things worse, Ticky.
     
  13. Oli The G

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    I can't be arsed to do anything atm (besides type this, nice try :p)

    Anyway, what is the problem with parts merging into map geometry? Can we not choose fixed, phased or normal physics?
     
  14. CAPNxXxCANT

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    As somebody who enjoys btb objective, it looks like I'll be playing a bunch of dominion. **** looks good. The only potential problem I see with it is that(judging from gameplay videos) the games might go by too quickly for my liking. I'd rather it be a marathon where you take time to strategize and build up base defenses rather than being a shallow sprint where you don't have time to do much other than kill 10 or so people and capture a base or two before the game ends
     
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  15. SpartanPeter

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    This thread says NO spoilers, ive already read some things i didnt want to know, and other people might also find this irritating (Ill forget it eventually i guess, but still) Putting the message in a spoiler wont help, because you want to know what is in the spoiler and you dont know that the spoiler contains a spoiler unless there is an warning.

    Now back to what the thread told me, ive seen someone say that there is no Falcon/no hornet, you cant tell me that there is no air vehicle in halo 4.
    Halo 4 is doing weird things to me, one moment i am very excited with what i see and cant wait, and the other moment i am dissapointed and questioning why that is not there, or why they didnt change it etc. In the end, halo never dissapoint me, there are just some small things.
     
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  16. Oli The G

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    Another quest chin/topic for thought.

    Will flood forms be able to hold weapons? It doesn't look like it, and if they can't then infection is ruined for me.
     
  17. cluckinho

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    It is called a 'Spoiler' for a reason. Don't click it if you don't want to have any info spoiled.
     
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    And then ruined for anyone who would use the gametype for minigames as well. Looks like we're going to have to be doing a ton of thinking inside the box in terms of making custom games in Halo 4. Thanks 343.
     
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    No, again this thread says no spoilers, so not in anyway. Not even a "Spoiler" as this is mostly used for other things.
     
  20. SilentJacket

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    my bad.


    Anyway, I saw the new vidoc, looks nice, and got me excited for H4 until I remembered what they did to it.

    A lot of these decisions seem to be 343i just reaffirming their separation from bungie.

    *these are all based on all accusations, both confirmed and unconfirmed

    Pros
    -flood mode
    -Sops
    -more forge options/optimization (trait/gravity zones, simpler pieces)
    -forge shadow baking
    -more forge environments (most look promising)
    -new campaign?
    -new weapons (maybe)
    -jetpack nerf (It needed it)

    Cons

    -thruster pack (not too bad, but it looks to much like a scene from DBZ, also, floor friction=ouch)

    -removal of invasion (I don't really like what they replaced it with, Auto turrets=frustration)

    -The Mantis (not so bad, at least this is optional in custom games)

    -No coordinate system/fine tuning/geomerging (the new forge caters to the casual forger, and discourages the creativity that made it flourish)

    -Sticky flag and Auto pickup (like changing combat roles in a ctf game was really that hard)

    -the announcements are excessive/corny ("flagsassination", really? [sub]but if someone gets killed by the oddball, hearing "You got boned" would be hilarious[/sub])

    -needing a power up to pick up grenades (last time I checked, only really old/obese people need help bending over)

    -emphasis on points (This is just degrading the honor system and general player's code, do I really need an incentive to help a team mate?)

    -no UNSC aerial vehicles (fuuuuuuuuu)

    -no firefight (though sops replaces it nicely, owait, you need XBL Gold to play it >.<)
     
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