I was really genuinely happy about the new map, sounds, Beam Rifle (even thought I wish it varied more from the default sniper) and Mark VI... ...and then the whole Flag thing, reload perk, explosives perk, Jetpack, Regen Field and Autosentry kicked my hype in the balls.
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^ And thus I refute thee with the same argument. Ball Dropped, Ball Taken, Lost the Lead, Gained the Lead, Hill Contested, Hill Controlled, Ball Dropped, Ball Taken, Lost the Lead, Gained the Lead, Hill Contested, Hill Controlled, Ball Dropped, Ball Taken, Lost the Lead, Gained the Lead, Hill Contested, Hill Controlled, Ball Dropped, Ball Taken, Lost the Lead, Gained the Lead, Hill Contested, Hill Controlled, Ball Dropped, Ball Taken, Lost the Lead, Gained the Lead, Hill Contested, Hill Controlled, Instead of not being able to drop the flag, limit the number of times the announcer says that, or take out him saying a few flag specific things. I'd rather him say things like this: Flag Taken: Only once when flag is pulled Flag Free: Only once during that flag's period off it's spawn (even if the flag is taken multiple times during the same run, it will only say Flag Free the first time the flag is dropped off it's spawn) Flag Reset: Only when flag is returned to base without player intervention Flag Returned: Only when flag is returned with player intervention Flag Stolen: Only if flag was stolen by enemy team
They probably have that as a setting you can switch on and off. At least I'd hope so, being the player that I am, I'll pull the flag but let someone else run it back home while I defend them. And Waylander, shorten your post or at least put it in a spoiler. Pretty annoying, we get your point.
As opposed to punching a regular baby? I do agree though, why not drop the flag?, If you take too much damage, you won't have the option to pass it on to a fresh teammate
maybe that's the problem and not dropping it balances the pistol. Why the pistol then? because it's more fun to the casual player than just hiding. I've also noticed that movement speed is a little faster for the carrier, which also is probably balanced by the fact that you can't drop the flag.
I guess the loss of flag-dropping/juggling is a reasonable trade-off for being able to move faster than a crawl when you're carrying it. That's one reason I never enjoyed CTF much. Grabbing the flag was just depressing unless you had a buddy with a hog/goose/rev waiting.
Not sure if you guys knew or not, but there will be a 10 minute long single player vidoc released sometime tonight! Anyone want to show me which video has the suppressor?
On the flipside, I really enjoyed the throws and trade-offs you could do in CTF. The announcer might have been annoying for juggles, but IMO it was fun to juggle and it traded stealth for speed. All that needed to be fixed were the audio cues. Make him only say 'Flag Stolen!' or 'Flag Dropped!' if the flag hasn't changed position (in transit/on ground) in the last second or two. That way, if someone juggles, the time frame in which the flag is in either position isn't enough to trigger the cue. If he drops it for 3 seconds, it will say dropped, and then taken again. Instead, flag games are gonna feel a lot less fun for me unless they allow for a change in custom settings... Never dropping the flag, even under threat or with a willing teammate/lift used to be a bad tactic. Now, it's the only tactic. The only consolation is a pistol that looks about as useful as a non-dual-wielded Halo 3 pistol. Maybe you can irritate the guys chasing you enough that they just leave you alone! Honestly, if this version of Flag stays, CTF will probably go from one of my favorite modes to near the bottom of the heap.
Anyone who thinks that the nature of a key gameplay mechanic should be decided on the basis of announcer by-products shouldn't be allowed near a keyboard, let alone one with even a passing relation to game design or programming. But seriously, competent arguments please.
Here's the Incinerator Cannon that was recently spotted: As for the flag pistol argument, I can honestly say it sucks. I recently tried out using speedflag in Reach for a close approximation, honor rule that you can only use the pistol while carrying. It sucked, it sucked horribly, even though it was a 1v1, I was stuck losing most of the duels except in cases where we both were carrying the flag.
It does suck that you lose all the tossing potential. With oddballs throwable, I thought flag might get the same treatment. And the audio cues thing would be a decent solution for that aspect, but I imagine there's more to it than that. As for the Magnum, I personally got a chance to try it out and it's not terrible if you pace a little. I was able to land a couple 5sks no problem when I spawned AR/Magnum, before I figured out how to switch load-outs lol It's a decent side-arm to wield with the flag. 1v1, you have decent odds at mid-range.