Section 03

While this does look a lot better than your previous maps, I still see some issues here right off the bat. First the map still looks extremely open between the bases the rocket hog platform and the pelican, to the point that even with all this extra stuff the map will likely still play like Hemorrhage, with spartans hugging the sides for cover and vehicles in the middle. I also see that both teleport nodes are right next to each other, making it easy to camp the receiver for the team that get's to the rocket hog platform first. Then the neutral sniper is right next to the neutral rocket hog, promoting someone getting in the hog to pick it up, where 2/3 times they will not even be able to use it, as well as removing one of the weapons that could counter the rocket hog from the other team's hands.

Finally, I just have to say that don't you think that combining a defining aesthetic feature from two Halo 3 maps into one is a bit silly? The Pelican in Valhalla helped to set it apart in our minds from other maps, as did the lifts in Avalanche. It seems to me that by putting them both into an otherwise somewhat empty map feels a bit cheap, as instead of creating something new we see two old Halo 3 parts pulled out of context of the levels. It's just my opinion, but I would't call taking parts of other maps and conglomerating them together to be the greatest idea ever.

 

try again

 

There is some cover in the center, but I think the problem still stands. The only infantry friendly positions are located on the outskirts of the map. Also, the map feels disjointed to me. There isn't enough uniformity in the theme, so everything just looks... pasted on. It's hard to explain.

I do like the idea of combining two maps, but I think you should expand on that. Instead of taking random aesthetics from each, you could figure out what aspects made gameplay on both maps unique, and try to implent them into the map if possible.

 

If im to be honest, and give you some good advice, on Avalanche it wasnt that the gravity lifts were there to look cool they were there to be functional as well and provide more of a wide spread push for infantry and even vehicles if you dared, they also acted as ramps in most cases as well. So you if truly want to keep the gravity lifts in your map, then give them a true function not just a random aesthetic that doesnt look that great in my opinion, you use the wrong pieces for them. The pelican was just there as a call out in Valhalla and a power weapon location, the forged pelican's always look pretty awful and itd be better if you made a true structure that better fits the theme your going for.

Now the main bases, they have both a stand off and waterworks vibe, but the design itself is very flat, and there appears to be no cover or angles on its top level to make them stand out as anything more than a blocky base. As far as the maps gameplay goes, you still leave open the more annoying sight lines that hemmorage is blessed with and the awful ability to snipe with little to no effort base to base. I believe you just need to expand more on the theme your going for, and not worry about aestheic qualitys of previous BTB maps, not unless there involved in the design of the bases or something truly useful. Hopefully you understand my concerns, and opinions, as it seems like a good idea but it needs some refining .

 

Your welcome, I'm just trying to help you along with your design as it screams forerunner to me and I go geeky for forerunner themes. I wouldnt add to many rocks, but I would expand on your grav lift concept, make the grav lift functional and provide cover as well to add more to the theme. I'm thinking burst pipes, I.E. Breakneck or outlets to reduce to pressure/heat build up which are similiar in design to a long generator, that seems to be venting off heat/energy in the form of a grav lift or man cannon. Give it somewhat of a industrial vibe, and make the middle ground bases more linked, I feel that would add much more to your theme, and you can easily do away with the pelican it just doesnt add anything to the map, building a true base would be much more useful.

 

I personally like the pelican then again I really like Halo 3. I like what you did with his map but maybe you could move the pelican towards the map a bit The reason I encourage the use of the pelican though is because it was a feature I enjoyed in 3 but have not seen in any other maps since then. Also try blocking off some useless areas like the cave walkways because people will hang around there and will make your map seem awkward. Hope this helped!