Halo 4 Discussion

Discussion in 'Halo and Forge Discussion' started by thesilencebroken, Jun 6, 2011.

  1. ♥ Sky

    ♥ Sky I Beat the old Staff!
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    If you don't like Halo 4 and you want a game with the number 4 in it, try Forza 4. or Streetfighter IV.

    Same here to what RST said above, I'd like the article scan too!
     
  2. Waterfall

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    Waterfall too lol I've only been able to find 5 pages...
    And those are the pages everybody knows about
     
  3. A Legit Taco

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    Well how are we to do anything about it? Pray that it doesn't suck? If nobody did voice their opinions they'd think we'd like the new additions. Also telling people to wait and see if they like it later isn't going to help, because then it isn't likely to be changed. I'm not going to switch to another FPS as there just isn't any FPS that compares to Halo.
     
  4. RightSideTheory

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    Random tangent here, but does anybody else think these guys are really ugly?

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    I hope there's a lot of armor, hopefully more than Reach. I always feel like that's the one (Non-gameplay) place they've fallen through, is different armor pieces.
     
  5. cluckinho

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    I agree. Atleast chiefs armor looks really good IMO. I'm sure will have a shitload of customization options, though.
     
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  6. Neoshadow

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    Yeah, I love the new armour for Chief, never really liked the look of any of the multiplayer helmets we've seen so far. The body armour looks fine, though.
     
  7. Waterfall

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    I agree chiefs armor looks great but what we've seen so far but I'm assuming they just aren't ready to show us armor yet so they are just using default armor
     
  8. RightSideTheory

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    I miss how armor worked in Halo 3, when you had to accomplish something in order to get a related helmet or body armor piece. I thought that was awesome, it made me feel like I worked for it because it was something I wanted, instead of just grinding through MM games. I thought that should be expanded upon, even if it was just alongside the credit/Spartan Points system.
     
  9. SecretSchnitzel

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    I'll complain when I have something concrete that I can base my opinions off of....

















    ****, Halo Reach. Damn. Load Outs sucked. I don't want the ever again.
    But Schnitz, you don't know how it will play with Halo 4!
    False. I know well enough how it will play. Halo Reach taught me that. I don't want load outs in the default settings. Period.
     
  10. Neoshadow

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    Perhaps they could throw in a few pieces of armour linked with some difficult achievements?

    I'd love to see the return of vidmasters.
     
  11. Security

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    Did the article mention load-outs? It seems like, though AAs will still be in the game, they will be implemented in a new way. I would still wait for a gameplay video before coming here to cry about it.
     
  12. RightSideTheory

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    They already took that out in Halo: Reach, and they don't seem to be moving back to old ideas in any way shape or form, so I doubt they'd move back on that one.

    But still, it's a nice thought. lol.

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    No, the Article directly said that AA's would be purchased with Spartan points, and put in load outs. You can apparently pick your weapons, AA's, and something they're not talking about, basically "Perks". Think, extra grenade on spawn, or something like that.
     
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  13. PacMonster1

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    Then your game programming course has been teaching you inaccurately. In 343's case the statement is true that the publisher pays the developer (because 343i is a division of Microsoft Game Studios) but that statement is still inaccurate. Private third-party AAA game developing houses are full companies. They have their own pay-roll departments, human resources, etc. They partner with a publisher to advertise, package, and transport the games because those kind of resources are hard to come by if a developer tries to publish a game themselves. The publishers have the deals with the platform makers; Microsoft, Nintendo, Sony, PC companies, as well.

    The specifics of that partnership are what determines how much power the publisher has over a game. Sometimes it is very minimal if it is a true partnership like Bungie with Activision or Activision-Blizzard with Activision. In those cases the publisher covers the cost of the aforementioned departments but otherwise has very little oversight into the creative decisions of the developers.

    When a developer is a subsidiary or fully owned by the publisher then the publisher has much more say over the developers creative content, deadlines, etc. However, even in those cases the developer is usually given a lot more control over creative decisions then you are giving them credit for. The developer has to present their content to the publishers at several milestones along the developing process and the publisher can decide if something isn't going as expected or it is taking too long to get done so it should be scrapped but rarely does a publisher change the content directly. Is there precedent for that happening, sure but it isn't the norm.

    The best way to explain this sort of relationship is that the publisher pays the developer a commission. The developer tells the publisher how long the product is most likely to take to produce, then tells them how much money would be required to get there.

    So sky if you don't actually know how the business works please don't wave around knowledge of the business you picked up from 1 class.
     
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  14. Neoshadow

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    Yeah, loadouts are definitely in.
     
  15. SecretSchnitzel

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    ^Fixed.

    How's the world look with those rose tinted glasses broheim?
     
  16. ♥ Sky

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    I'm a little disappointed after reading the GI article now. I don't really like the idea of being able to choose what weapon you start with in a game, that just seems too much like COD/Battlefield. Hopefully they'll restrict access to power weapons and stuff and keep them as pick-ups. Nor do I like the idea of being able to see through walls. That's what radar is essentially for right?

    Then again, this is a new trilogy and they've come up with some excuses like this UNSC Infinity and it's Holodeck to cover for the changes they're making. At least there is an excuse with some form of merit to it rather than "because it felt like a good idea at the time". I can understand why they're making these changes but I hope for the sake of the game they make sure to fully balance and test it all. Then again, the game will be broken day 1 for sure.
     
  17. SecretSchnitzel

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    Ya know... If 343i can pump out mega amounts of new content for the Spartan Ops feature.... You'd think they could throw us a bone and give us new maps for MM on a regular basis.... And for free. That'd be so awesome.
     
  18. Oli The G

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    Deux Ex Machina really seems like what they have done with the infinity.

    Em.. reason for people to fight each other... that makes sense...


    INO! ITS ALL A SIMULATION!

    It's not a dream. Its a simulation:
    Reminds me of this


    Also, Neo should check my signature more often :D
     
  19. PacMonster1

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    Almost like some sort of community cartographer feature involving some sort of mode known as forge. If only there was such a network that existed.
     
  20. Oli The G

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    I like how my signature is nothing but the RH members agreeing with me (and neo saying hes an idiot :D) except Pac. Unworthy of my achievments! lolwhilst. Remember Pac? Yeh remembur? You remembur? Remembur pac?

    But yeh, I think 343 really should get some more community involvement with regard to our wishes for forge.
     

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