My friend and I were playing a game of Alpha Zombies on Asylum. Pissed that the map was voted for due to lack of camping spots, he swiftly becan hopping up one of the sniper cove bases until he sat on the edge of that dreaded Collesium Wall. From there he began scoping zombies left and right. Until that is I pulled out my own side arm and capped him off the cheap spot. Increadibly pissed, he betrayed me several times and we began a heated debate. He insisted that since it had not yet been patched, it should be exploited as much as possible. He then cited my low score, stating that the cheap technique got you more kills, and thus more fun for the human. I countered by saying that it was dreadful for the powerless majority of sword wielding undead, and was simply unfair in general. In short, I think it's cheap and can ruin a game for most people. Your thoughts?
I use them, to show 343 what they need to patch. Like in that one map I forgot what its called ****. It has the diamond in the center with the energy sword. There's areas on the map where you can jetpack and hide, areas that weren't soft kill patched
With betrayals unpunished and the quality of maps in the current infection playlist, the only reason people go there is to mess around; therefore, it's perfectly fine to take advantage of camping spots.
I agree, but I do use cheap spots at times. I don't agree with what your little nemesis said though, It isn't fun to camp in them all the time. In the end you just have to live with it. It's because of those people that the spots get patched.
Infection. A gametype in which people try to find to most exploitable spot on the map to farm as many easy kills as possible.
Of course it's unfair once someone gets to a spot like that, but it's fair between/amongst the humans at the start. He just happened to be more knowledgable about the map or faster. I hope you don't expect others to feel your loss when they get an unintended (by the mapmaker), unbalanced advantage over you in an online game; you should know that they clearly have nothing to lose. There's certainly no chance to ask for honor rules, so don't expect them. Like Overdoziz said, you would be expecting them to not play infection, because after all, those were the only rules that technically existed in that match. Expecting players to be fair when they don't have to is analogous to expecting people to obey laws without enforcing them. I haven't played that way that much, but I'm guessing that I would get tired of picking off defenseless players almost as quickly as I have gotten tired of gruntpocalypse (which isn't exactly a short time). But perhaps the act of (hypothetically in infection) getting several multikills against other players would remain inexplicably gratifying. A more balanced, competitive game could ultimately remain more fun to me for the same reason that firefight limited was more fun than gruntpocalypse- it was more challenging and diverse (in terms of gameplay).
The only reason why most people play Infection anyway is because they can farm some easy kills. A lot of people like getting cheap and easy kills. Just look at CoD.
I don't mind it, but I never do it. Especially in infection, I have more fun being on the ground in danger than picking up headshots from a safe location. boring
Saying the exploitation is fair to use is kinda dumb because you're the only one who gets an advantage from it, which makes it unfair. How so? Because you get to go up there and shoot zombies from farther away, while zombies gain no edge by going up there because they can die easily by being shot.
Plenty of people know about the spot, but few actually go to them. Kind of like the other several glitched/exploited spots on Asylum. Many know how to get to them but few actually do. It's not about who knows the map better and who gets there faster, by that you're implying that naturally all humans would rush to get to exploited glitch spots, which they don't.
Why don't you stop posting comments. Seriously, It's pathetic that you keep coming back here just to spam 'Oh get the **** over it, it's infection, you're supposed to camp' That really shows me how much of a life you have.
That's how some people view it, I will give you that. But just because a majority of people do that, doesn't mean that's the way it was designed to be played. I'm guessing it was introduced as a more hardcore gamemode that kept you on your toes, but turned into a campfest. Frankly, I want to here people's thoughts on whether or not exploiting glitches and problems with the map is fair, not about how infection is meant to be played.
When has Infection not been a campfest? Even in the days of Halo 2 people just hid in corners where you could easily kill people. Never mind, misread that. The gametype originated in Halo 2. Back then people had to manually switch teams once they got infected, though. It could only be played in custom games and wasn't hardcore (lol) or anything. The gametype itself promotes camping and this becomes even worse when you put it into matchmaking where most people only care about winning and doing everything to achieve that.
Yes, camping is a factor, but the whole point of this forum is asking is it fair? I'm not talking normal camping a la the 'Tower of Power' on Pinnacle. Everybody camped there. I'm talking about exploiting glitches and mistakes in order to gain an advantage. Ironic, isn't it, that Halo 2's infection relied heavily on honor rules.
(Off topic:Try not to reply to troll posts, Appreciate the bump and ignore) There are many different types of "glitches and exploits" with varying effect on the game so there is no one answer for "glitches and exploits" unless you become more specific. And you specified infection so this is true: BUT there shouldn't be walls you can run under across grenade double head jump to here bla bla to get there which are obvious unintended game breaking exploits and should be patched asap. And until it is patched it would be a "dirty move" (like kicking someone in the balls to win a fight)but since when has there been honor in online gaming? Makes me slightly more ok with it when I think that the people that use this or heavily rely on these cheap glitched spots to win will often sacrifice training or experience in actual fair gameplay so when it gets patched they will be less skilled and screwed over. If you really don't like a exploit try and alert 343i hopefully they will patch it.