I don't mean to be rude but, are you you dense? Just look up similarities between the two games and you'll understand why I keep talking about it like some sexy pin-up. It's because it quite obviously is the inspiration for a great majority of the Halo story/universe. Essentially Halo is a reinvisioning/re-imagining of bits of Marathon. Seriously, try and actually look up what your opposition has to say next time you want to argue, not only will it help you argue your point better but it may just solve the issue by informing you that you were wrong. I am fully aware that other possibilities are out there for the story of this new trilogy, I'm just saying that this is the only thing we can determine as a solid plot from what we know right now, they sure as hell could introduce some random ass new enemy to put in Halo 4, but I hope they don't.
It isn't a romantic love story, as mentioned from earlier ViDocs, it's along the lines of their pretty strong friendship. lol AIsupersoliderlove
Yup, it's not one of those lovey dovey romances, its a kind of bond born from the experiences they have shared and what they have gone through.
I don't know if you are insinuating that she liked him like that from the beginning or not, but I think she just chose him because he could do what needed to be done when **** hit the fan.
Pull your head out of your ass. You're the only one being ignorant here, everyone else is talking in speculation while you seem absolutely certain of your GUESSES. There is absolutely nothing that says 343 HAS to stick to cannon. Bungie themselves have changed so much of the back story as the games went on. Until the game comes out you cannot say for certain what will happen in it. So either accept that others could be right or shut the **** up before you make your self look even more like a ignorant jerk off.
Chill out man, when did I say that I was absolutely right? Never. I fully acknowledge that I could be wrong, also gonna quote one of my previous posts that actually says the same thing. You really should read all of what I had to say before you get your panties in a wad. If you can discern a plot for the next three games that doesn't amount to fighting the same kind of crap we have already, and make it plausible with what info we have right now, be my guest. Lastly, speculation is guesses.
Halo 4 starts the 'Reclaimer Trilogy'. Dunno if this has been posted yet, but it says the trilogy will focus on the forerunners, along with other stuff.
Notice he mentions Cortana's state of mind in the article, see how my argument/idea isn't completely groundless?
I see how they could make Cortana rampant to serve the plot, I just don't like the idea. I'd rather have her on your side. Whatever I'm insinuating, it doesn't matter. I just don't think Cortana would ever go against the Chief.
I'm going to highlight the part you don't seem to get which is what we're talking about. That is far from "the only thing we can determine" and is what we're trying to tell you. You have it in your mind from things you've seen outside game cannon and bits and pieces of nuances that you've heard around and that has framed your perspective to what you think is the obvious conclusion. We're trying to tell you that scenario is not "the only solid one" and in fact hundreds could equally make sense WITHIN the cannon that is already established. Being "dense" is blocking off other ideals in favor of only what you believe in. So far I have even stated that your theory is one of many possible ones, maybe even one of the better scenarios. You seem fixated on it like if it doesn't happen then A. They've lied to us all along B. The game will suck. And you're just not getting it with the Marathon thing so I'll drop it.
I honestly hate how this has turned from a discussion of a possible plot for halo 4 into a war against my feelings towards my idea. I was simply adding my two cents, and now you guys are all fired up over me saying that it would be a good idea. Now on to my rebuttal to your post: I'm not saying that if it isn't like that then they lied to us, although it would be nice to have a game that, you know, actually followed the given storylines that have already been writen about that timeframe. I am not saying that the game will suck if it isn't this way. I am not saying that the game can't be different than this. I am not saying that this is the only good idea. I am not saying that there is no way a better idea could be made with info we don't already know. I am not saying that it has to follow the canon of the books and other things. I am saying that I would like it best if it goes this way, at least going off of what I currently know about possible plot lines for the game. I am saying that if it correctly follows the canon, then this is the best plot that I can think of.
In one of the books, I believe it was Halo: First Strike or Halo: The Flood (I believe it was the latter, but I may be mistaken) it mentions that Cortana's life span as a smart AI was severely shortened by the acquisition of a vast quantity of knowledge. I'm assuming that knowledge was all of the data acquired in the glacier artifact on Reach that was delivered to Keyes by Noble 6, or the data she acquired in the first Ring during Halo: Combat Evolved. It's canonical (idk if tha'ts a word, my spell check didn't correct it so must be.) so the theory of a rampant Cortana does hold water, but I believe it is going to be Forerunner focused.
As stated previously, smart AI's lifespan is supposed to be around 7 years, but can be shortened by acquisition of external data. So if they follow canon, then Cortana is very close to death. (or rampancy) And from the articles that I have read, it does seem they are going to be putting more focus into the background of the forerunners, while also having the Chief-Cortana relationship be prevalent. I'm not going to say more on it since people seem to be throwing a fit over me putting ideas out there from what I know of the storyline canon-wise.
...sigh Why do you say that though. How is this the best plot according to "correctly following the canon". So far your evidence is an apparent "love" story between MC and Cortana even though in the games it is only ever just a strong working relationship. Chief cares for Cortana as an asset that Chief depends on. Same for Cortana that needs MC to move around and gain new experiences. Any "love" that is felt is just from strong companionship not passionate/intimate feelings. When you show me the hidden bonus level where cortana is going down on MC and MC is saying boom headshot I'll agree that maybe it was something more. Cortana did not act strange the last we heard from her and did not act strange when she was rescued. So as far as "rampant" that was only during the middle of the game when those weird talking scenes were going on. The story of Halo 4 is going to be about the forerunners so while Cortana could very well go rogue I'd say its one of the least likely of the scenarios that could happen. Would that angle be interesting, sure, but there are no facts that back it up any more than say a new race that appears. Facts from the games that do support that plot scenario: Gravemind, a flood form so old and wise he convinced another smart AI to go rogue on the Forerunner, was in control of Cortana for a decent part of Halo 3. Facts from books/other: Smart AI's lifespan, discussed in Halo: The Flood. While "thinking oneself to death" does not mean going evil and killing your best pal, I suppose it would make one unstable and not able to think straight. Now while those two facts are there they hardly make it "correctly reading cannon" to think of other possible scenarios that make just as much sense.
I'm tired of this, if you don't understand my idea then I don't ****ing care anymore. If you don't understand the relationship between halo and marathon then play the damned game. I am sick of this ****, I am sick you completely ignoring the fact that halo was inspired by marathon and the fact that you believe that 343 isn't going to follow the ****ing canon from a section of the story that THEY ****ing wrote. I am not saying that Cortana and John are going around shooting aliens and sucking balls, I am saying that her mental state is at the damned point where she is bat **** crazy. I am done with this god damned arguing in a thread that is supposed to be for discussion about the games. If you sincerely intend on continuing this argument then watch halo legends and play ****ing marathon.
I understand your idea just fine. In fact my last two posts have stated quite clearly what your "idea" is. You keep getting more and more vague and more more hostile. Yes, marathon came before halo. Yes marathon is also about a space marine in the future. Yes many of the plot developments are similar as any Sci Fi game can claim. Marathon does not define halo, Halo is its own unique universe and is not tied to Marathon in any way other than coming from the same developer and several similarities in plot lines. What any of this babbling has to do with Halo 4 is beyond me and not important. Completely wrong. Halo started out as an RTS for goodness sake. It was molded by requests from Microsoft Game Studios to become an FPS. Any inspiration that resulted from Marathon is again subsidiary and not primary. Hell, the movie Aliens could be considered every bit an "inspiration" as Marathon. They didn't write it...343i IS NOT BUNGIE. And I'm sure they will follow canon. The part that shows Foward Unto Dawn flying into a Forerunner planet like structure with Cortana seeming perfectly normal before Chief went on ice. First part I'm not sure if you got my "boom headshot" joke, maybe I should have added a giggity afterward but the second part there, lol. Again, yes she was acting strange during the majority of Halo 3, until she was rescued and we see her in the legendary ending Halo 3. I will do neither because neither have anything to do with Halo 4 and will not help me understand the one and only truth you believe in. Great discussion guys. Whew. I haven't been in such a heated debate since the '08 elections. Anyways, if you want to continue, PMs or VMs. Thanks, Bloo.