I dont know man. I geuss it kind of depends on several things first the type of map: mini-game, slayer etc. If your a good forger that takes alot of time to make good maps or speedy maps just to get publicity with maps arent that good. That being said if you were able to forge in H3 then you have experience and know how it works so you have to be a good forger and a speedy one at that so im not gonna do it if it comes around as a contest.
Lynx - I agree that everything needs to be hashed out ahead of time, hence this thread. To the several people who suggested an hour - I agree with you too that an hour is a much better (though still extremely short) amount of time to forge something good. I mean, of course it is. But it brings me back to where we started, which is that it may simply not be feasible to judge. Watching an hour long film clip even on fast-forward is mind-numbingly boring. Watching more than one of them... good luck getting anybody to do that. If we had some alternate means of checking the videos lined up, somebody that could capture them all so they could be watched via some mechanism with faster fast-forwarding than the default theater mode, then it might be on the table. But I can't give up a month of my life to watch a few dozen one hour videos for an admittedly silly contest. That's where the 10 minute number came from - it sounds halfway tolerable to judge. I'm open to ideas on how to get around that problem though.
To post a video of the map being made, you would need Bungie Pro right? And that might seriously limit the amount of people because not everyone has bungie pro. amirite?
Nope. If you have a file share slot free, you can upload the video to it, and I can download the video to my box. It never has to be rendered, unless I want to watch it online. For something like this with a large amount of lengthy videos changing hands, I think rendering it through Bungie Pro is likely out of the question, unless they want to step up and comp us a bunch of minutes for this particular purpose.
This contest would be a waste of time and would only result in many garbage maps being submitted. If you're actually planning on going through with this, make the time limit at least 1 hour. Even then, realize that the submissions will all be pretty much the same basic arena-style layout. This isn't a good idea at all.
Say, thanks for reading all most half basically none of the thread and contributing a lot something next to nothing to the conversation.
Well, you only have to see the beginning of the film to check that FW is blank, then just rubberband the fastforward button and check back in 20 minutes (I think it is 3x speed) to make certain it is the same map. Burns time, but at least you don't have to sit and watch the whole thing.
Even that sounds brutal to me - if you had 30 entries that's ten hours of rubber-banding. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if I had a bit of help though. I'll have to mull it over. I'd like to make the time limit as long as possible (while still being short enough to maintain the basic idea of speed-forging).
Yes, 10 minutes is a short time, but the idea isn't to make a good map people, it is about making the best out of 10 minutes. I will enter the contest anyways, no matter time limit.
Say, thanks for making a troll post and contributing nothing to the conversation. I've read this entire thread and my point still stands. 10 minutes is only going to give a bunch of garbage contributions and the contest won't be worth anyone's time. If you want to see thousands of oversimplified Onslaught/Octagon-like submissions, fine by me. Just as long as your "contest" doesn't get any attention. Up it to at least an hour or come up with a different idea for a contest. This one is just a waste of time. Plus, a much better contest is currently in progress, so this is a bad idea anyways.
Yeah, I'd hate to waste anyone's... ten whole minutes For truly that would be the end of days, and there would be weeping and gnashing of teeth! Oh lord spare us from the avalanche of "garbage" maps that offend the MLG tryhard contingent! Surely the winner of this contest was going to get his map in matchmaking and be on the cover of Time magazine and get 2 million views on YouTube... so much undeserved celebrity, it hurts my sensitive soul down to the very marrow. This, right here, shows how little attention you've been paying, and why your comments are pointless. It's not about the specific time limit, it's about a short amount of time that still produces a contest that can be fairly judged. If I can make it an hour, I will. If I could make it six hours, I'd do that too. But even if I can't, who cares? If there's a silly little contest for ten minute maps and it produces 30 smoking slabs of crap, why are you wetting your drawers about it? It's for FUN.
The problem with limiting it to 10 minutes is that you said in the rules that people could spend more than the 10 minutes working on things like spawns, weapons, safe areas/kill zones, etc. That means that even if the person spent 10 minutes exactly creating the geometry of the map, someone might still have to end up judging a 30 minute video with the other work thrown in on top. If you wanted more than 10 minutes, I suppose one way to do it would be for everyone to upload their theater clips, and then have someone (or a group) assigned to render those clips. That way, the rendered clips could be skipped through at will (where watching a theater clip gives you very little control over speed or skipping to a certain spot). The problem there is that someone (or a group of people) has to be willing to give up some of their render minutes.
No - they just submit a 10 (or X) minute long clip of them building the geometry only, and if the geometry matches the map they submit, they're approved. I don't need a movie showing anything else they do.
I still spend hours placing a single lock, then running and jumping around the whole map to make sure its good >.<
If I do it, which isn't 100% definite, it will start around the end of the 5000 budget cutoff - end of August.
Wait so do we have to spend ten minutes on the structure or spawns n structure because you cant really tell if somebody changed the spawning separatley.
Contest = Competition Competition = Competitive Contests aren't meant to be for fun. They're meant to show who is best at something. If you want to have fun, you can do so without making an official competition. You still have yet to prove anything I've said wrong, so again, my point still stands. The contest is a waste of time.
Why you speaking on behalf of everybody else? What you just said is your own opinion. Obviously I and most of the people in this thread disagree with you. Contests can be fun. The winner of this contest doesn't get to be president. You need to learn that not everybody sees the world the same way you do. There's nothing to "prove." The idea is ridiculous, when what we're talking about is completely subjective. If you think it's a waste of time, by all means, stop talking about it and don't submit an entry. It won't break my heart.