how? you argued that it is a sport because it requires a ton of skill, i countered by giving an example of how many things that are not sports require plenty of skill. based upon the argument you made, it was a perfectly adequate counter-argument.
Jokes on you, bro, because I CAN drive stick. But no, in all seriousness, there's probably a lot more skill than I know involved in racing NASCAR ovals; I just find it mundane and seemingly simple compared to F1 or motorcycles.
I don't really think nascar is a sport compared to someting like motocross. I personally think nascar is just a boring think to watch. There is barely any crashes and it goes on for hours with the same person in the lead for have of the race.
The term "racing" here is likely contextually meaning a foot or bike race; something that requires kinetic energy from a persons muscles to display their athletic prowess.
"have" the race, a boring "think" to watch? Geese man, learn to spell. NASCAR can have lead changes every 5-6 laps, sometimes even less, you obvious have not watched a full race before.
I will say, from what little I know, NASCAR is a giant battle of attrition. For one, you gotta establish your position early on in the qualifying heats to gain the pole position, or get as close to it as possible. From then on out, you fight to hold your spot, or work your way up to overtake that spot. I respect the fact that there is plenty of skill involved in NASCAR, I just find it rather mundane. Excuse my ignorance.
Definitely athletes. I'm not exactly sure how anyone can say that they aren't, especially when none of you can even come close to be able to do what they do. Sure the concept of going in an oval is easy, but if anybody could do it, why can't you guys? I'd like you to go up to a Nascar drivers face and say "you aren't an athlete because all you do is drive in a circle." That's just dumb. I'm pretty sure Nascar is a contest involving stamina. btw.
again, just because not anybody can do what you do does not make you an athlete, it just makes you a professional. or merely just skilled, depending on what it is. here is my take. an activity/event is NOT a sport if: 1. you can smoke a cigar while doing it, and still be proficient. 2. you can drink beer while doing it, and still be proficient. (im looking at you, fishing) 3. the outcome is determined by a judge's opinionated decision (anything where it is judged out of 10 or whatever and the highest score is the winner) 4. participants do not move by the kinetic energy produced by their own muscles. (anything you sit still and do not move at all, chess or "e-sports" or whatever, i dunno. or racing while riding in or on something that propels you. (horse racing is only a sport for the horses, not the jockeys.)) now im sure NASCAR fans will argue that it is a sport to their grave, so arguing about it is about as pointless as arguing with religious people. i simply have a different opinion, and while i do not respect your opinion, i do respect the fact that you are entitled to your own opinion.
That whole post made me laugh, well done sir. I also agree with you wholeheartedly. Unfortunately, logic sometimes escapes even the most accepting of folks. Traditionally, a sport is something that requires an individual to use their body as a vehicle, not an actual vehicle, this is why I think all forms of drivers aren't athletes. I do respect the fact that they may well be good at what they do, and I, possibly, could not do what they do to the level that they can (this would be due to the fact that they've had years of practice over me), but I still stand firm on my opinion that they are not athletes. And I would tell them that to their faces, and they would highly likely agree with me. Unless of course they are actual athletes that participate in athletic activities in preparation for their driving events, as I know a lot of rally drivers do.
As far as I believe race car drivers are also athletes. If shooters are considered as athletes as they just use their concentration not the entire physical likewise the car race driver use their concentration power and some physical strength too. Here I feel like sharing something. My favorite car race driver is Nelson Piquet