Osama Bin Laden

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  1. Fbu

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    they deleted the pix... Hmmm convieniant ...
     
  2. Glasgow

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    I heard all of those special forces ninjas had helmet cams and were transmitting live video feeds to the president and his advisors and **** while they were infiltrating the compound.
     
  3. BASED GOD

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    were they tweeting too

    I didn't realise you needed evidence to prove someone is alive
    He's either alive or been dead for years
     
  4. Black Theorem

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    google search "Osama dead" (pretty grotesque, if you have a queasy stomach)...

    There's more pics and apparently a video taken by the pakistani government, but they refuse to release that information.
     
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  5. BASED GOD

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    yo its fake
    like a year+ old
     
  6. WWWilliam

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    And I also mentioned it in this thread already. But point is Pakistan tried to fake osama's death not directly relevant to this incident but still relevant.

    Add more to "the" conspiracy the story of what actualy happened in Pakistan was changed because they made a accident in telling the story and decided this not 5minutes later but over a day later after it happened. hmmmm.

    And they are deciding whether to release the photo of dead osama of this incident and the CIA reckons they will at some point. (More time to make a fake a dead osama aye, Like big foot and alien sighting videos/pictures)

    Still not sure what they want from faking this maybe
    -a war against Pakistan?
    -Make it seem like america can't fail at anything because if osama was already dead then someone finds him and america's like "oh we found osama he died of old age in his house." Then america people be like WTF we search for years looking for him our troops dieing and then he lives and dies of old age. We need our troops out of the war. , Civilians and soliders not hyped, sure they may be happy about him dead but meh.
    -Cover up for spys in Pakistan chopper blew up there only and this is good cover story.

    Way to many variables just have to wait it out and see what happens and figure out what America planned from there. Because what ever happens is what america planned they didn't have to tell anyone they killed osama(or faked it).
     
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  7. Tallt66

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    Osama Bin Laden is a manufactured boogie man used help to create the false "War on Terror".

    YouTube - Rockefeller Reveals 9/11 FRAUD to Aaron Russo

    His CIA given name is Tim Osman. CIA created the organization called Al Qaeda and he along with Al Qaeda helped us fight the Soviets in the 1980's.

    Osama has been reported dead several times in the media since 9/11. Example

    The videos he allegedly put out are full of problems and have been shown to be probable fakes.

    Why do I say all of this? This boggie man has always been a convenient way to promote this war. When people have had just about enough... a new video comes out and we are all unified again.

    This new reporting of his death is very suspicious. the entire operation from his assassination to the burial at sea within 24 hours has been controlled 100% by the military. Dumping the body at sea with out any independent investigation as to the validity of the claims the government has made stinks to high heaven.

    He's dead? I say prove it! The government's word is pretty much useless.

    This is a political stunt and a distraction from real issues, like the central banks and globalists' controllers who are the real architects of terror.

    Personally I think Osama is a pasty, a tool, and I think he had very little to do with 9/11. Bin Laden even denies invlovement in the attacks soon after they occurred.

    If Osama did 9/11, how did he destroy building 7 in NY that wasn't even hit by a plane?
     
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    They're trolls, that's how.

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    Conspiracy theorists: you make me lose faith in humanity. Almost as bad as FES members.
     
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  9. Neoshadow

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    ? Wtf?

    His post makes perfect sense though. And he isn't saying it didn't happen, he said theres a chance it didn't. And he's right.

    Every word of his post was evidence or factual, and your only comeback to it was some crap about conspiracy theorists and a reference to your dislike for the FES.

    If you're going to flat out insult, or knock someone down, the least you can do is back up your claim, so you don't look like a complete ass.

    However, it seems a little unlikely that he isn't dead.
     
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  10. The Trivial Prodigy

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    Sorry, I just can't stand conspiracy claims, and I probably didn't think before I posted. DOn't mean to come off that way, it's just annoying to listen to is all.
     
  11. Tallt66

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    This is why I don't share information with most people. They can't handle it and attack the messenger.

    Most people would rather cover their ears and yell "bla bla bla" then go back to Halo, football, or American Idol.

    Typical knee jerk response to info outside the mainstream:

    1) Use the word "conspiracy" (as the media has trained you to do) in some fashion to dismiss my sourced arguments
    2) Instead of backing up your point of view with real information as I did, throw an insult my way

    You think I like finding out our government is a corrupt as any other?
    I'd love to be proved wrong.

    Rather than make jokes about this or speculate, I take the time to find real news articles and information and assemble it for you to read for yourself.

    I want what any other freedom loving American wants: the truth

    For those actually interested in more information, here is an interview with Dr. Steve Pieczenik that was done yesterday 5/3/2011. He has been high level in several presidential administrations and he claims Osama died in 2001 of medical problems...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjtNiTm99e8&feature=youtu.be
     
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  12. Furry x Furry

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    Why would we even risk going into Pakistan then? Wouldn't it have made more sense to "kill" him in Afghanistan if they were going to conspire? We have never been on good terms with the Pakistani government.

    I understand that it's possible but the motives are not there.

    Edit: I started to watch your video and noticed that it has no evidence. So far, it's just "they told me this but I didn't release it just cause."
     
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  13. Tallt66

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    I posted the video for the testimony of Dr. Steve Pieczenik, not Alex Jones and he gets into Pakistan relations in the interview. I'd say he's a pretty creditable source. I mean, if you think about it, this whole event is based on the word of somebody because no body or photos have been released of anything. So who do you believe? I tend to believe the guy that's risking his credibility to give his account.
     
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    It's far from a knee-jerk reaction. I'm just going off of basic logic and common sense, not to mention educational background, of course. I mean, sure there's a possibility Osama is still alive/has been dead for some time, but do you really think the U.S. would risk their credibility on that? All it would take is for Osama to release another video, and the U.S. would be screwed. Lose all credibility, be called liars, etc.

    My point is, he's dead. And it's pretty easy for me to distinguish between legitimate and bullsh*t arguments. Yes, it may be suspicious that they dumped his body so soon, but that was probably following Muslim burial rights. Some peoples' arguments don't fit with facts. It's like trying to fit the square pin in the triangle hole; it just doesn't work. The argument just falls apart, or is too ridiculous and elaborate to stay together in the first place.
     
  15. Berb

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    Now here mr.conspiracy, I don't completely dismiss your statements. I checked out the links and watched that entire video. I do however not believe in the New World Order or how we are all gonna die in 2012. I do however think that some people bring up respectable points regarding 911. We know that it was used as an excuse to get America into a war for oil. After all, in America's largest wars (WW1 and WW2) involvement was dependent on a single trigger event (unrestricted SW and Pearl Harbor).

    On the topic of Osama, you can discount Fox News. In the views of anyone who understands their extremely biased views, they cannot be counted as a reliable source. After all, I believe on the first page if this thread their article on the death is present. I believe his name is spelled wrong 12 times but whatever.
     
  16. Organite

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    Lol, I'm almost convinced the 'misspelling' was deliberate.

    Anyway, there is essentially the same evidence presented to us that Osama is dead as much as there is that he's alive.

    None.

    We're all basing our opinions off what someone told us, and you have to admit it is somewhat auspicious that so much effort was made to make sure the body wasn't ever seen again, and it's not like the media wouldn't show us gruesome pictures of Osama's dead body. When Sadam was hung every news source in the world made sure everyone saw it to prove that he was indeed executed when there was so much fear that his government would just release him.

    Now we're all asking the same questions: Where's the proof?
    I like to think he's dead, but being the skeptic I am, until I'm shown hard evidence that this event actually took place then I'm goin to remain neutral on it.

    Like I said, there is just as much evidence that he's dead as there is that he is alive.
     
  17. BASED GOD

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    This is a breach of the constitution impeach Obama 2011

    Unlike CNN and MSNBC rite
     
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  18. Fbu

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    this topic evolved past my wildest dreams
     
  19. Matty

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    "The Iraqi government released an official videotape of his execution, showing him being led to the gallows, and ending after his head was in the hangman's noose. International public controversy arose when an unauthorized cell phone recording of the hanging showed him falling through the trap door of the gallows. The unprofessional and undignified atmosphere of the execution drew criticism around the world from nations that both oppose and support capital punishment.
    On December 31, 2006, Saddam Hussein's body was returned to his birthplace of Al-Awja, near Tikrit, and was buried near the graves of other family members. Saddam's body was never shown."

    People saw a mock execution introduction.

    I don't see how you could think the last two US presidents, the current one, and the possible future one are all lying to you.
     
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    You've obviously never heard of Apophenia.
     

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