Halo: Reach Discussion

Discussion in 'Halo and Forge Discussion' started by Vincent Torre, Mar 3, 2010.

  1. Red Army

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    One question, what's FaF?
     
  2. chrstphrbrnnn

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    Friends and Family
     
  3. pyro

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    The grenade launcher will not become a noob weapon in Reach simply because of scarcity. Power weapons are placed lightly on the maps, so people cannot usually just spawn with one. On some of the classes however it is the starting weapons, but this will probably be countered by large numbers of enemy vehicles.
     
  4. chrstphrbrnnn

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    I think it'll take skill, but be deadly if one is good with it.

    However, unlike MW2 we have a beta to nerf things through.
     
  5. Black Theorem

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    I know I'll be abusing it when it comes to Stockpile. Just shoot one in the enemy territory, wait a bit... then kill everyone waiting to score.

    And you can spawn with one in some loadouts.
     
  6. Wood Wonk

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    it definitely wont be the caliber of the nub tub in terms of hatedness or cheapness. as stated before, its like a normal frag or plasma pistol in that it only takes down shields, no one hit kills. also, its not like the aim, fire, instant explosion of the nub tub. you have to manually detonate it it you want accuracy. so that time when you are focusing on releasing the trigger at the right time for maximum damage you will most likely be more vulnerable.
     
  7. chrstphrbrnnn

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    Pretty sure it's 1 hit ko if you hit them directly
     
  8. Wood Wonk

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    hm perhaps, i didnt notice. if that is the case, i think it would still be difficult to get that direct hit for a one hit KO. if not, then thats what the beta is for.
     
  9. Shanon

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    Grenade launcher + DMR = Reache's noob combo, lol
     
  10. Red Army

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    It's not like everyone will have the Launcher.
    Like sure, with MW you can choose what weapon you have for whatever game. But this it is limited. And you can only use it with your loadout when you're near the end of the match anyway. I don't think it'll be that overpower.
     
  11. Spicy Forges

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    I could imagine callouts being forged onto maps via Hill kind of objects. You can resize and reshape the areas and then name each area with a callout of your choice. That would be cool.
     
  12. pyro

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    Does this not appear to kill in one hit? His shields are not sparking before the grenade is fired, and when the grenade detonates, it "pops" his shields. Unless someone has hard evidence to back up that a grenade only takes down shields, I am assuming that the guy in the image was at full shields when the grenade killed him.

    And whats the thing with bouncing the grenade all about? I have seen that in every video of the grenade launcher.
     
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  13. Ladnil

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    Yay another thing that terribad mapmakers won't know how to do right! They'll leave gaps in their callouts! No seriously, I am actually looking forward to this. I appreciate all the subtle things that tell me a map's creator didn't put any effort in to making it, so I don't have to put any effort into figuring out that it's terrible.
     
  14. Orange

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    If you hold Down RT it doesn't asplode till you let go
     
  15. ROFLwaffleP133

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    I'm trying to think of a way custom control schemes could be used to gain an unfair advantage, but I really don't think there is one. Buttons that you'd press easily would be sacrificed for action originally mapped with easy to use intent.

    The only annoying thing I can see resulting from action mapping is going to a friend's house for some good ol' split screen as an XBL guest and not knowing how the hell not to piss off your immediate company. :)
     
  16. Ladnil

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    I have a strong feeling that's why Bungie doesn't want to do it. Halo is a great social game because you can sit around a TV with your friends in real life instead of just over Live. It's bad enough having to swap back and forth between Bumper Jumper and Default when I play with friends, I wouldn't like redoing half the buttons manually.

    Plus, there is such a thing as too many custom options in game design. There comes a point where everything just seems so overwhelming and complex that people don't use their options at all, leading to less satisfaction with the game than if there were less customization. Nobody here would fall into that category, because we all care enough about Halo to join a site like this one. The majority of buyers, though, don't ever post on any forums or anything, and are not willing to spend time figuring out what the different options do.

    That is equally a hurdle when Bungie creates their new custom game options and forge tools too, by the way. We may dream of the most powerful tool ever, with many options and tons of customization, but Bungie probably won't go as extreme as we'd like them to.
     
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    I know you are talking about MW2 here. If not, you still perfectly described it.
    And that means we are the extremists. YAY

    I think that he was on low shields, having been damaged but had been given enough time to stop sparkling.
     
  18. Ladnil

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    Yeah, MW2 has terrible menu design. I rented MW2 several times consecutively from the Blockbuster I work at instead of buying it, and I learned more about the game from 20 minutes in the threads here than my friends who've owned it since Launch.

    Yeah, lol. I hope people understand that it isn't because Bungie is incompetent that the custom games and forging aren't going to be everything we dream of, but because they are very competent. People can beg all they want for more options, but no amount of good menu design will make everything we want fit with what the true casual gamers can deal with.

    Isn't he wearing a jetpack? And aren't EMPs supposed to blow up jetpacks? I've got no idea where I heard that, so don't quote me on it, but I feel like I've heard it somewhere...
     
  19. noklu

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    And it's not just menu design, its the actual weapon choices, the killstreaks, I mean goddamn there is such a thing as having too much to choose from.

    He is wearing a jetpack, so the only thing I can think of is that the jetpack not only turns off the shield but when it does so the shield must recharge. Probably the reason is that it uses the same power sources.
     
  20. Spicy Forges

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    That stockpile game that was in the video was a custom game. They even said it, so maybe this has something to do with the instant grenade launcher kill? Couple more days and then we will find out for sure.
     

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