You can argue that. In Halo 1 & 2 there was no mauler, and just because you couldn't use the energy sword in CE doesn't mean that in Halo cannon the shotgun was the main counter to the energy sword. Also, the mauler is exclusive to brutes. Just like the brute shot, the spiker, and the spike grenade. Before the brutes joined the covenant they had their own military, too. The only thing that isn't brute exclusive that brutes mostly use is the chopper.
Technically, the Energy Sword and the Gravity hammer are the Covenant Shotguns. Dont think of them as if they arent the same because they are not guns, they are the same because they are incredibly deadly weapons at close range and useless at med-long range.
covie sniper and human sniper? o wait... covie shoots quicker and if shots are well spaced (timewise) no reload, ever. sniper different fire rate and 4 shots to clip. besides damage, theyre completely different. My bad.
so what? the brutes joined the covenant. bringing their technology. whos to say that in some cases that other covenant races use spikers or brute shots. and i dont recall saying that there was a mauler in halo 1 and 2. the mauler had nothing to do with my arguement. my arguement was that the shotgun came befor the sword, therefore the sword wouldve been used to counter the shotgun in halo 2. understand? or do i need to explain it a little more slowly?
There was a custom weapon like that for Halo Custom Edition. (old PC port/mod of Halo 1) It looked like a tranquilizer gun and had two firing modes; the first one shot single needles that super-detonated, and the second mode sprayed a stream of needles like it was a garden hose with no limit, at the expense of grenade-throwing. What we really need is a plasma-flamethrower. It'll be purple, look a lot like the UNSC Flamer, and have a translucent blue fuel cell in place of the round thing on the Flamethrower that emits steam when it overheats. I suppose it would project a jet of liquified plasma. (I'm not sure what that would look like though)
This was an issue that I discussed with my brother a couple of days ago. The Covenant don't have shotguns. My brother also said that the mauler was a shotgun. However, it is classified as a pistol because of it's small compact size. Im amazed that with all that tech, the Covies cant even make a shotgun.
Except that the fuel rod actually still has the same power at all range of it. It is really for like a covenant rocket launcher but with suppressed range.
I present to you a plasma pistol. Thou people have made an issue that the sword and hammer are the equal to the shotgun, I personally view the Plasma pistol as the weapon your looking for. THINK it is a weapon that is independently useless at a far range, you can not score a kill at a far range. Not to the fact one can do damage that distance but because that shooter can not score an independent kill score like they could at a close and personal range. Now personally compare the mauler to the Plasma pistol, side by side to the mauler counter part; the Plasma pistol is a weapon that does both extreme distant shots as well can be deadly in fist fights. THINK BACK IN HALO CE, we spawned with Plasma pistols and AR's, usually one would think it would be a good weapon to spawn with if your spawn was in danger. IT also made you want to pick up a pistol(BR!!!) after you spawned to have a decent ranged weapon. Add it up, and you had one in your hands the entire time. So, maybe you never noticed that that plasma pistol is the Grunty shotgun of the future, but I for one have always wondered how the Elites would wield a plasma pistol. Imagine a camo Elite popping out and BLASTING you with one of these in a point blank range. This would feel exactly the same as those Mauler wielding Brutes in ODST, and I would be extremely surprised as well see how much the plasma pistol is a shotgun of a different style. The only other way I can explain the Plasma pistol is a shotgun is, how deadly it is to charge a person with a charged pistol. This style of weapon makes it a very defensive weapon. YOU should not ever in any moment charge a pistol that is primed to explode. Only due to the fact it is like a shotgun, one deadly blast and it is all over. The only other grunty shotgun I can find in my mind is the Suicide grunt, but that is a totally different ball game. Tosses a nade up in the air and sticks myself and CHARGES AT YOU!.... PS Weapons in human history usually grow smaller. Example Cannons were the first guns, then they progressed to become LARGE rifles only men could shot. These guns then were modified to for women. If you continue the trend weapons continune to get smaller as you move up in time. Think, Smith and westen West, You have Large 18'' Pistols as being the weapon of the day. James bond used an 7'' inch PP7. The latest small hand guns at the moment are 4 inches. Covenant are right on the money if you compare that trend as to what weapons they have as Pistols.
that it the dumbest comment ive heard so far. and they only problem i habe with calling the plasma pistol the cov. shotgun is with the sword and shotgun is with both the shotgun and sword you can get a 1-hit kill, but plasma pistol you can only get the shields down.
Often times it is faster to kill a person with that human shotgun via Shot then melee then reload. I'm just calling it as i see it.
The gun's effect you're proposing is a spike grenade. As for a shotgun we already have 2 types for different things. A covenant shotgun is pointless.
in the original version of halo 1, before the game was released, there was a machete. they took it out for a reason. think about it.
Yes, well... No. Having a covenant counterpart to every human weapon (and vice versa) takes all the unique qualities about that old and, back then alien, choice of 'plasma or bullets?'. Although many Human vs. Covie mapmakers would disagree, I would hate a needler or hunter beam. The rod gun in halo 1 was noticeable different in operation from the rockets, but now they're one and the same functionally. However, no weapon is hugely overpowered, and that is so true to bungie's philosophy. They make stuff different but the same, and no other developer I've seen has been so focused on that perfect balance. And as much as it'd be novel to have shotgun that goes SHAO!!! It would take the unique qualities of Humans vs. Covie and wash them down the drain. So there.
I dont like the idea of covenant and human weapon counterparts. They should be even overall, but completely different individually. That way, in invasion or spartans vs elites, different teams can use different strategies, fostering unique gameplay. I dont want the same weapons with different skins.
I think the mauler is fine. it has that awesome melee... you can beat someone close with a shotgun, with some luck and skill. they don't need anything else exactly. thats part of what makes the game great, the alienness of some of the equipment, weapons. the diversity of options would be less if each side had the same weapons in different containers. should there be a human needler counterpart? or a covenant assault rifle? Meh