MLG Pyriform is a map constructed in the upmost layers of Sandbox, intended to, and succeded in, recreating the monster that currently is Guardian. CowboyPickle took on a huge conquest when the idea was first sparked, yet still managed to push on through. Proportionally minimized to fluidly support smaller games such as 2v2 and 3v3, Pyriform is here to leave its mark. Unlike default Guardian which is played with Team Slayer as a cliche, Pyriform is also outfitted to support King of the Hill. Also differing from Guardian is Pyriform's weapon placement, simple, yet just as effective. While the mauler has been migrated back towards the home of the shotgun on the default layout, a Custom Powerup was added to balance out either team. You'll find that this map has also been tinkered enough so that a few jumps have been added and done away with. S1 to S2 is now easier for the purpose of transversing, and a skilled enough jumper could also jump from S1 to elbow. From top mid a single jump is all that's needed to reach S3 keeping the maps flow as smooth as possible. The bottom hallway as well was gifted with a do-over, as it nows waves to create a blockage in the line-of-sight. - Download Pyriform - And here is a video of the map and some gamplay YouTube- Halo 3 Guardian Remake Special thanks to all the testers especially MultiLockOn for giving me alot of ideas on improvements and doing all the Photoshop work for the great pictures in this post.
Haha, great job on the remake Cowboy. It's nice that it's down sized slightly so now Guardian won't play garbage for doubles anymore. Oh and by the way, first person to find where I tagged the pictures gets an internet cookie. Yeah that's right, I wrote my name in one of the pictures I'm expecting great things from you in your future CowboyPickle.
Spoiler Top Gold pic a little bit above the camo on the double block I can haz cookie? Nice looking map Pickle. I remember seeing this when you were first making it. Hope it plays better than regular Guardian
This is an amazing remake. I have to give you props on possibly making the first good guardian remake. But can you put up some pics of blue room when you get a chance, I'm curious as to how it looks.
Arghh, you beat me to it Ace and I'm hungry... This is really awesome pickle. Everything looks extremely clean and aesthetically amazing. You really took into account the minor details that make up Guardian and incoporated them into the map beautifully. I look forward to future maps from you!
well id rather not make Multi do more pics when you could watch the video and see the blue room. sorry. anyway thanks for the comments.. MLG pyriform FTW
I don't really see how a Mauler is balanced by Custom as the Mauler is far less valuable. I could be wrong, and I'll reserve further judgement until I've run some games on the map. A very good map all around though.
Holy ****. This map is impeccable (Like my use of unused words?). You not only recreated a classic map with a better layout and weapon spawns, but you also made the map ascetically amazing. Your structures had a lot of work into them to make them perfect. It is very easy to see that a lot of time went into this map, which is what forging is all about. Damn, i would like to rate this a 6/5.
all i could say is wow i just played it,amazing good job i havent found a crooked block or floor piece,astounding map good job,9 out of 10,just to let you know ive never given a map a 10 o shut up quit your bitching and enjoy this amazing map
ROFLOMG THNX SOMUCH !!! Haha... Great Job pickle! Ive been waiting for a descent↑ Guardian remake badly. I see you payed great attention and detail towards the aesthetics .The Aesthetics of the map all-around is very smooth. This map is so much better than your first remake of guardian that got bungie favs. P.S. If ever a v2, make sure to include ghost ledges or etc for MLG jumps ;]
wow Great Job on the First successful remake of guardian, and a good one at that. From what I can see, you did an excellent job of the grav hammer spawn and green, however, the Forging could be a little neater with the rest of the map, considering that you can basically merge anything now, you just have to take the time to do it . As for the tactical jumps.... meh. S2 is nearly impossible, I get it 99% of the time on Guardian. I am currently working on a remake and have recreated all of the jumps I know: Stump Jump, S1-S2-S3, G1-G2, Shotgun. I can help you with all of those if you want.
You have done a great job on the remake, 2 points tough. This may be a remake but the MLG should be more overpowering than the remake (AKA shove anything originally from the map that didnt fit well with MLG). Sniper base shouldnt have been designed like a tree, it looks like at s3 if you jump upwards you get knocked out of s3 into top mid by the awkward little ledge and at s1 you are missing the vital cover at the walls. I mean like where there is a little alcove you can hide in. Also I would reccomend adding at bottom gold, the lift jump at the sides. I look foward to trying to top this. EDIT: In green the upside down golf holes have extra gaps at the side, you could go round a bit more circular, or add a block just so people cant hide down the side. Also at shoulder, it should be quite wide at shoulder, I recommend doing the same sort of structure you did in that area, spinning it round and adding it also into the corner, so its a 45 degree turn and not a 90 degree & a 45 degree turn, then maybe adding like a beam across them or something? Id like to see a V2 with most the suggestions everyones made. I got rrod today so I wont be able to download or work on my own map so :/ Sorry.
good map dude, the forging looks clean. no offense though but why did you remake guardian? i would rather play guardian than this.. good map overall though
B3NW Yes i know that some of the MLG jumps arent there. but the only reason the map is MLg is becasuse the only guns i could put on the map were the mauler and sniper. and i figured MLG's br would go could with thise two guns. second this tenically is the v2. haha the origianal version had all guns,grenades, equitement, and all the MLG jumps you are talking about, but i ran out of money building the lift to s3 and the blue room. so i had to make ajustments. and they were getting rid of most guns, grenades, and some aesthetics, to finish the map. i might have taken some jumps out, but i made others easier. if you read the description it says that the jump from top middle to s3 is now only 1 jump instead of two. and the jump from s1 to s2 is now able to be jumped without crouching. i get what your saying how the map would be better with your suggestions, but i simply couldnt do it. i used a stacked/budget glitched map and still i had to fight to finish it. but i thank yo anyway for you suggestions. wat im looking for is comments that i can change things, not add things. like a wall that might be crooked, or a bump while walking. those are the helpful comments
K I understand, but you can probally recover loads of budget from the tree aesthetics and just make it a wall. All the other parts are mearly suggestions. Thanks for replying back, most people dont actually read comments and construct on them. BTW equipment is against MLG rules, so im geussing this was first designed to be competetive and not to be insulting but I think it should have been kept as that due to your budget problem, MLG remakes shouldnt have the good things taken out of them from the originals and you have removed a lot of the things that were needed for it to be a succesfull MLG remake. In honesty I wouldnt play this because MLG guardian is actually better than this. But in remake standards it is very good. I would have given it a better review if it was competetive because MLG maps have standards that have to be met and things that will disrupt gameplay such as the thin corner at elbow/shoulder and less cover in s1 than normally. As I said, if you update with fixes (it will take a while but will be worth it) then you will get some better reviews. Also @ people going its so smooth, I agreed at first untill I started looking upwards and looking at walls and lots of things stick out. Its hard to notice but they are the kind of stuff that disrupt gameplay. Newho good look with it. PS: In the video right at the begining there is a guy trying to escape the map, who very neally does, then fails. Lol
yupp. that guy did escape the map in that game. which is why i fixed it. yu cant do that anymore. also there is no bubble sheild in the map. i took it out. but thanks for the suggestions. they are good ones. so your saying if this was in competitive it would be amazing??? cause i think its quite fun with MLG. no radar, brs, and the sniper/mauler. if you try it im sure youll see it actually has really great gameplay. and could u be specific on the crooked walls so i can fix them. thanks
Wow really nice remake but if i may ask what do the custom powerups do? Like what traits? Anyway great remake. The new weApon layout looks great. Im gunna DL and see how the map play side by side with guardian. nice job
TBHWY I dont want to waste my time, theres to many to point out. Its an overall map flaw if you get me? It would most likely need a remake to fix them all, it would also be a waste of your time. But to point you in the right direction, just look at the video, I saw most the flaws in that video because of the camera angles in 3rd person. So most the flaws I saw are from the screenshots and the 3rd person angle, so I could just see them at a certain height.
Custom power ups vary on gametype, the default is usually... wait, why do I have to explain this to you? I like the MLG remake of Guardian. It looks so much like the original, maybe even better than the original. I am going to have to download to check it out. Congrats on the great remake.
I'm going to go ahead and assume you were just being sarcastic, and not overreacting and attacking me because I gave an honest criticism...