I think the covenant need a better shotgun than the mauler. Spartans can duel wield making it powerful but is there need for a stronger shotgun? I was thinking that they could get a shotgun that shot out needles from the needler except a lot, like A LOT. Not homing, it's a shotgun, but just so much needles to do damage at medium range and a lot at close. Anyone else have any ideas for new weapons?
Why would you want two of the same weapon? The game already has a shotgun. The mauler is weaker to DISTINGUISH it as a different weapon, with different gameplay and uses, such as duel wielding. If both had the same power and the same properties, then what would be the point?
Arguably the same is true of the Beam Rifle, though it's not exactly the same as the Human Sniper with it's lack of reload, quick repeat if needed and lack of ricochet, the differences are comparable to what's being proposed here. Still, I think the nature of short range weapons means that diversity is less of a plus and has less weight as a reason to include a new variant of the shotgun. I personally think the mauler is fine as it is, and it's nature as a dual wield weapon isn't just about doubling up, but combining with other dual wield weapons to vary the nature of attack.
Well with each human weapon, you have a counter covenant weapon. Shotgun has mauler. Mauler is weaker, yet duel weldable. Sniper has the rifle, which can do double shots quickly, but has really low ammo. BR has the Carbine, which doesn't shoot out bursts. You could go on with the comparisons. What I'm saying is, the thing that makes the shotgun and the mauler different, you want to change it sounds like to make them the same weapon.
in my opinion, the energy sword was put in to be somewhat of the covenant counterpart to the shotgun.
Well, the Covenant /don't/ have anything like a Spartan Laser, Missile Pod or Flamethrower. Does that mean they should get "different" version that just tweak the textures, just to even things up? I think it's nice that the covenant have some weapons that the humans don't, and vice versa.
In my opinion, the Shotgun is the counter of the Energy sword, not the other way round. It's one of the few more common weapons capable of stopping the energy sword in close range consistently. I do like the idea of another needle type gun, i think that idea could definitely be put into something else, like perhaps a grenade launcher with an arc type fire, which explodes and sends out homing needles (although it'd only really work in open areas), or even make it a detachable covenant missle pod type thing.
I think they should drop the mauler, and make a covenant 'sawed off shotgun' the fires a super short range spreadshot of needles.
you cant argue that the shotgun is the counter of the energy sword. A. because the shotgun was usable in hao ce, the sword was not. B. because if the shotgun is the counterpart to the sword, the the sword is the counter of the shotgun. its like opposites. you cant say that light is the opposite of dark, but dark isnt the opposite of light.
Agreed. Aren't maulers brute weapons anyways? If in reach we end up fighting elites again(fingers crossed), they'll probably be taken out, right? I have mixed feelings about this. WHile it would be an interesting addition, if the needler/shotgun hybrid only worked in close range, wouldn't that mean that the shards would blow up while you're near the guy that you've used the gun on?
yes brutes use them usually, but the covenant may have designed them. so they may be used, just like in halo wars the unsc used Brs and they didnt in halo CE. THe covenant in reach may use maulers, "brute" shots, etc. this probably wont happen. im just throwin it out there haha.
Who knows, maybe they will add new weapons in Reach. But for me the Covenant shotgun would just be like a carbine except it fires 5 in one go is short range and need to reload after everyshot. And just saying my idea for a Covenant Splaser would just be a "Hunter Gun" the one where it just fire a Green Beam for a few seconds.
Elites can duel weild, but they don't have maulers, seeing they're brute weapons. Elites have energy sword but has ONLY right-in-your-face range. An elite shotgun could have at least have a not-right-in-your-face-but-still-deadly-at-medium-to-close-range range. What about grunts? Should they get more than fuel, rod, needlers, and PPs?
okay, lunge. sword, still deadly when your not "right-in-your-face". lunge. and just because brutes usually use maulers doesnt mean their brute exclusive. covenant still builds them. since in reach the brutes probably wont be there, it is possible that elites will use them
I like your idea for a Covenant Shotgun. But the Energy Swords lunge is longer than you think. You can oull the trigger slightly before and still lunge and kill. I pull it before it is red for the lunge and get it lunge and a kill. I pulled off an Killionare+Running riot in Lone Wolves for my friend with 2 Maulers, a Plasma Pistol, and an Energy Sword all on Construct. I think the Shotgun will get destriyed by a Mauler+Plasma Pistol Dual Wield. Also just so you all know. The Mauler is not a Shotgun for the Brutes. It is a Explosive Pistol if you read your Halo3 Manual.
the covenant does not need a shotgun. they have the sword, which is there mid-short range weapon, while the unsc has the shotgun. like someone said earlier, the covenant and unsc weapons arent supposed to be completely equal. because that would be boring.
The covenant is an AI, they use the mauler which is weaker to make your life easier. This is only a problem in forge if you are making come Covenant vs Human thing. But zander is right for the most part. PS. Pegasi is wrong, the beam rifle has ricochet
Wasnt Reach attacked by the Jiralhanae anyway? Or was that Harvest? The Assault beam I think has been mentioned before as something that isnt detachable and is welded to a Hunters Armour... So unless we stumble upon a Hunter Armour Creating Facility.. I dont think we'll be picking one of those up in Reach. As I said to the other guy.. I'm pretty sure it was just the Jiralhanae that attacked Reach.. but I hope I'm wrong anyway.. I'd rather fight elites. Your lucky then.. i occasionally have it where its red and it doesnt lunge