Yes. Christianity is based off a book that was written by man. It is a compilation of IDEAS. Not facts.
Christianity is based off tradition also... and you're pretty much saying that ideas can't be fact... So, idk, that seems like messed up logic to me.
Don't put words in my mouth. Ideas can very much so be facts, but until they are proven to be, they are only theories.
You said "Ideas. Not facts", which makes me think you're saying facts can't be ideas.. Okay, fine, I'll go with the flow... So Christianity to me is a proven theory.
How is it proven.... >_> we are going back to square one here. I am completely fine with you believing in Christianity, but even most priests agree that it is not proven. Thats what faith is. And faith is the reason most people who disagree, disagree... because all faith is blind faith.
You aren't blinded by faith, you're guided by faith.. edit: I'm goin' to bed right now cuz this debate's too slow atm.. c ya in the mornin..
why does a religeon have to hate another religeon, anyone can belive in what they want, my theroy of god: god was going to school to show his progect of how to create a universe, when he got there, zeus pushed hin into a puddle of coke, the coke then got into the universe and speded up time temporaly, thus creating galaxy's and other stuff, ps, my theroy was just a stupid thing i came up with just now, just for lols
I'm pretty sure now I'm addicted to this debating thing, but I'm just going to be a fact checker okay. You can't debate with silly facts now can you? but you sure all love to. btw i don't care if you reply to me i won't pay attention because I'm not actually posting any beliefs any quoted post is going off topic, because you would be arguing over something not covered in the topic. Spoiler 12. I have not laid waste the plowed land, nor trampled down the fields; 13. I have not driven the cattle from their pastures, nor have I deprived any of that which was rightfully theirs; 25. I have not turned back water at its springtide, nor stemmed the flow of running water; 26. I have not broken the channel of a running water; 31. I have not added unto nor have I diminished the offerings which are due; 32. I have not purloined the cakes of the gods; 34. I have not disregarded the season for the offerings which are appointed; 35. I have not turned away the cattle set apart for sacrifice; 36. I have not thwarted the processions of the god; 42. My name has not come forth to the boat of the Prince Those are the ten commandments I know! i like how you only pick out the ones that fit. I'm sure you would find laws similar to the ten commandments in Hammurabi's Code, therefore they stole them from there, obviously!!!!! They got the heart and brain switched actually. however the other organs they got spot on through detailed autopsies. They were very intelligent for their time just as we are for ours. In a few centuries we will have believed in silly things, too. fyi *substitute So a person gets a speeding ticket and they pay a fine because that is the law. Is that cruel? I think it is and that is just what you are saying. So what if you don't like the law and it's consequences, stop using your opinions as facts, opinions don't matter in a debate. Why do you contradict yourself? You say you can believe what you want but before that you attacked religion, kinda contradictory if you ask me. fyi *doesn't *belief *believe lol an idea can exist without matter or energy. I just proved that entire argument wrong. If you want I can go into all the little details you got wrong as well. of course you didn't use those details he did. You didn't actually do anything, meaning you didn't actually contribute to this thread, meaning your post is spam, to put it quite frankly. /thread becase im smarterz tehn u biatches!! WHATWHAT!!!! (you're an arrogant asshole in case you didn't get the sarcasm) No science is a method not facts. Theories>Facts we've been over this. Quite impossible actually. There is evidence but no solid 100%correct facts. That doesn't mean there isn't supporting evidence making it not totally blind faith. It doesn't. fyi *religion
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm your very logical but heres a song YouTube - Sonic Unleashed OST: Endless Possibilities
Fail. WARNING! WALL OF TEXT APPROACHING! The Earth...its size is perfect. The Earth's size and corresponding gravity holds a thin layer of mostly nitrogen and oxygen gases, only extending about 50 miles above the Earth's surface. If Earth were smaller, an atmosphere would be impossible, like the planet Mercury. If Earth were larger, its atmosphere would contain free hydrogen, like Jupiter.3 Earth is the only known planet equipped with an atmosphere of the right mixture of gases to sustain plant, animal and human life. The Earth is located the right distance from the sun. Consider the temperature swings we encounter, roughly -30 degrees to +120 degrees. If the Earth were any further away from the sun, we would all freeze. Any closer and we would burn up. Even a fractional variance in the Earth's position to the sun would make life on Earth impossible. The Earth remains this perfect distance from the sun while it rotates around the sun at a speed of nearly 67,000 mph. It is also rotating on its axis, allowing the entire surface of the Earth to be properly warmed and cooled every day. And our moon is the perfect size and distance from the Earth for its gravitational pull. The moon creates important ocean tides and movement so ocean waters do not stagnate, and yet our massive oceans are restrained from spilling over across the continents.4 Water...colorless, odorless and without taste, and yet no living thing can survive without it. Plants, animals and human beings consist mostly of water (about two-thirds of the human body is water). You'll see why the characteristics of water are uniquely suited to life: It has an unusually high boiling point and freezing point. Water allows us to live in an environment of fluctuating temperature changes, while keeping our bodies a steady 98.6 degrees. Water is a universal solvent. This property of water means that thousands of chemicals, minerals and nutrients can be carried throughout our bodies and into the smallest blood vessels.5 Water is also chemically neutral. Without affecting the makeup of the substances it carries, water enables food, medicines and minerals to be absorbed and used by the body. Water has a unique surface tension. Water in plants can therefore flow upward against gravity, bringing life-giving water and nutrients to the top of even the tallest trees. Water freezes from the top down and floats, so fish can live in the winter. Ninety-seven percent of the Earth's water is in the oceans. But on our Earth, there is a system designed which removes salt from the water and then distributes that water throughout the globe. Evaporation takes the ocean waters, leaving the salt, and forms clouds which are easily moved by the wind to disperse water over the land, for vegetation, animals and people. It is a system of purification and supply that sustains life on this planet, a system of recycled and reused water.6 The human brain...simultaneously processes an amazing amount of information. Your brain takes in all the colors and objects you see, the temperature around you, the pressure of your feet against the floor, the sounds around you, the dryness of your mouth, even the texture of your keyboard. Your brain holds and processes all your emotions, thoughts and memories. At the same time your brain keeps track of the ongoing functions of your body like your breathing pattern, eyelid movement, hunger and movement of the muscles in your hands. The human brain processes more than a million messages a second.7 Your brain weighs the importance of all this data, filtering out the relatively unimportant. This screening function is what allows you to focus and operate effectively in your world. The brain functions differently than other organs. There is an intelligence to it, the ability to reason, to produce feelings, to dream and plan, to take action, and relate to other people. The eye...can distinguish among seven million colors. It has automatic focusing and handles an astounding 1.5 million messages -- simultaneously.8 Evolution focuses on mutations and changes from and within existing organisms. Yet evolution alone does not fully explain the initial source of the eye or the brain -- the start of living organisms from nonliving matter. Scientists are convinced that our universe began with one enormous explosion of energy and light, which we now call the Big Bang. This was the singular start to everything that exists: the beginning of the universe, the start of space, and even the initial start of time itself. Astrophysicist Robert Jastrow, a self-described agnostic, stated, "The seed of everything that has happened in the Universe was planted in that first instant; every star, every planet and every living creature in the Universe came into being as a result of events that were set in motion in the moment of the cosmic explosion...The Universe flashed into being, and we cannot find out what caused (The Big Bang) that to happen."9 Steven Weinberg, a Nobel laureate in Physics, said at the moment of this explosion, "the universe was about a hundred thousands million degrees Centigrade...and the universe was filled with light."10 The universe has not always existed. It had a start...what caused that? Scientists have no explanation for the sudden explosion of light and matter. HA! See? Your "Big Bang" is False! How Can You believe something that no one can explain the origin of?
Cool story bro! I like how you just ejaculated a bunch of useless info. Nice try in sounding smart but it didn't have any...er..."umph." Have you considered that bacteria can live in very harsh conditions such as radioactive, hot, and cold ones? Knowing this, there isn't a "perfect" condition. Also, Tardigrades can live in the vacuum of space, survive radiation, live in extremely hot and cold environments and can live 1 decade when being dehydrated. So is earth the SUPER AWESOME PERFECT ENVIRONMENT EVURRRR? Perfect for you but doesn't have to be for everything else. Just because science has it's shortcomings of knowledge doesn't mean that it isn't true. Scientists still don't know why cats pur. Does that mean it's false?
Along with what Jedi said, we as humans are ideally perfect far beyond recognition. We don't need this intelligence to survive, so why are we gifted with this. Intelligence so far ahead of any other species that it makes us conquer all of the animals in our planet and even conquer Mother Nature. So why is it that we are this advanced. We obviously don't need this intelligence to survive. We don't need Weapons or Guns, we don't need to create complex houses for shelter, we don't need vehicles. But we have the intelligence to make these objects. So, I'm not a creationist, I would much rather support Evolution, but even I believe that this "God" which most of you deny is what caused us to have this superiority over this planet. Because I don't think it is just coincidence we have millions of benefits that all the other animals don't have.
God Has No Origin. My Proof He Exists... I'm Sure You've heard the story of Moses, 1. Moses and his people escape they're slavery in Egypt 2. They Get to the Red Sea, With The Pharoah's Army hot on his trail 3. God Creates a Wall of Fire between Moses and Pharoah 4. God Parts the Red Sea and allows Moses to go through 5. Moses Crosses and the Pharoah Follows 6. God Releases the Red Sea, Instantly drowning the Pharoah and his Army 7. Aprox. 3,500 Years Later, EGYPTIAN WAR CHARIOTS, HUMAN BONES AND HORSE BONES ARE FOUND IN THE BOTTOM OF THE RED SEA!!! OMGOSH!!! Look Up "Egyptian Chariots Found In Red Sea" on Google look at the top of what it finds for you I've Also personally seen him work. I'll tell you how... 1. My Church does a Youth Group called "Deep And Wide" for 5th Grade to High School. We have a group about 30 kids or so ranging from the ages of 11-19 and we have fun, go to dairy queen, play TONS of Dodgeball, Wa, American Eagle, And Kickball then we go to the parks of youngstown, ohio to hang out with the kids at summer day care. We Play Dodgeball with them, Then our Pastor (Or Whoever is in charge of our group) to the kids about God. And Within 2 Months, We've brought around 400 kids between the ages of 3-12 to know Jesus! Cool, amirite? YES I AM! Two Months Dude, Two Months 2. One of the kids in the above mentioned group, Marissa, Had a terrible stiff neck and was really stressed out with some issues i will not visit at all. And She also had a lump on her neck from stress and sat off to herself for about 10 minutes or so and prayed to God an unselfish prayer... She Came back with no lump, no stress, no stiff neck. God Healed Her. 3. One of my closest friends Travis had a sharp pain in his left ankle and could not walk and could not run at all without the aid of crutches. The Entire Group laid hands on him and prayed for him to be healed. And then they went to play American Eagle. then a minute later i'm watching the other kids play american eagle and all of a sudden i see travis, unable to run or walk without crutches. running across the park we use as our B.O.O. and started to play american eagle God Healed Him. And i saw these things take place... God Exists... You Just Gotta Look For Him...
The differing thing between creationism and evolution is that creation supports the idea that the earth was created for humanity, but evolution theorizes that humans are made for the earth (basically speaking). Its not a coincidence. Its called natural selection. The Red Sea can get shallow enough to the point where a similar situation may have occurred, but parting the seas was probably an over exaggeration. Anecdotes can't prove anything. Their validity is too questionable to be discerned as even reasonable most of the time.
If we were perfect, people wouldn't murder for pleasure. Why do animals like to play with their own kind? They obviously don't need to do this to survive. But they have the capability to. And why are we so much better than other animals? Because we can communicate with our species in an advanced manner and create technology? We're still plagued with violence, ignorance, and competition. Just because our brains are more advanced doesn't mean we are the divine species. I'm agnostic, so I don't doubt the entirety of god(s), I just have to stick with my senses. Religion's past has made me stay away from it's dreadful future. Ok. So you just contradicted your previous conclusion with the first line of this post. I can stop right here and continue laughing, but I'll keep going in the name of lulz. Your proof he exists lies in a book. That no one today can justify without faith. I wouldn't call that proof. In science, english, or math textbooks, those same principles apply and we know to be true. I refuse to believe that the Bible holds the truth to life, and refuse to accept such simple claims. Ok. Let's get this straight. Just because you converted some desperate kids to a religion, does not mean your God saved them. From anything. There's no proof, only your unsupported beliefs. And about the healings, yeah, they happen every day. Without prayer. It's called probability. There's a possibility that they might get better, and there's a possibility that they don't get better. Studies have been done, and they show that a group of people in a hospital that were prayed for had no difference from people who WERE NOT prayed for. It's a placebo. You can keep thinking it's doing something, and that's great and all to keep a clear conscience, but it's not doing anything. And Jedi, I looked for him for 15 years. Look at me now.